I really hated to post my reply to fss because I like Mark , and I don't mean to offend any of you excal users. but I'm so sick of the excal hype I could just vomit. There are a few folks on this board who have bought the excal thinking it was a great MD and ended up very disappointed to say the least , Just ask Florida Bill and a few others including myself. Its a consistency and quality control problem with Minelab more than anything, If you get a good one, there great ,if you get a bad one its Hell.... its a crap shoot . I wouldn't gamble my money on it.HH guzz1