Head Stamp Bullets

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Any info about those headstamps ? 4A3755F3-68FE-4484-81AD-FF409A582B95.webp
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I searched Google and couldn't find an example - but...



Also - found a thread that said: "...One other thing I know of is some ammo with an "SF" head stamp. This stuff is said to have been made for the 1909..."
 

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[FONT=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Roboto, Lato, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]03/1935 date of manufacture[/FONT]

  • SF, FMSF Fábrica Militar de Cartuchos de San Francisco ("Military Cartridge Factory at San Francisco") - San Francisco, Córdoba, Argentina.
 

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Do we know which country used them?
 

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Can you post a photo from the side showing the shape of the base with a measurement in mm? I think what you have is a French made 13.2mm shell for an M1929 or M1930 Hotchkiss heavy machine gun. The guns were used by several different countries including Greece. I don't know if the guns were all imported from France or if some were manufactured locally under license but I would imagine that when Greece made the initial purchase of guns they also bought French made ammunition with them.

Here is a WW2 era photo of Greek soldiers with the gun used in an anti aircraft role
hotschkiss_mle1930_13,2mm_afb2_Greece.webp
 

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Cases have head stamps. The bullets do not. But VPNavy seems to have tagged your Lebel cases.
 

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Cases have head stamps. The bullets do not. But VPNavy seems to have tagged your Lebel cases.


It can't be an 8x50 Lebel because that is a rimmed case with no extractor groove, the one pictured has an extractor groove and looks to be rimless

Definitely need a measurement, an 8x50 Lebel will measure 16 mm across the head, a 13.2 will measure 20mm across the head
 

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Full pic with ruler of case may hlp
 

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