Help! Very Rare Coin!... Maybe?

[j.d. in the usa]

I found a coin last week with a bunch of
others... I found an 1832 capped bust half dime in
awsome shape... I also found an 1820 capped bust dime
"holed" from square nail that I have not posted yet I
am posting a pic of the 2 coins from the same
field about 10 ft. apart... they are exactly how I
found them no cleaning... the pic shows a big diff. in
the 2 coins what it doesnt show is how shiny the 1820
is its as shiny as a "mirror" I can clearly see my
reflection in it the only coins I have that come close
to it are proofs... could this 1820 dime be a proof?? or can you polish a reg. coin to a mirror shine without damaging the details? this one has me puzzled.
on the pcgs website it says that there may have been 5
proofs so even with a hole its in great shape and is
extremly rare if its a proof? please take a look at
the pic and let me know what you think the
possiblities are... jd

 

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[j.d. in the usa]

Monk has a great idea it may be a counterfiet coin... that would be so cool!!! I ahve a few counterfiet KG coppers I found not never an american coin!! thanks bud I hope thats it thanks everyone I got some great info here!! hh all

 

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[jon43]

SWR no proof sets were available in 1820 there are no known proofs for this coin but PCGS estimates possibly 5 were made I highly doubt the one I found is a proof I believe it was polished and worn as jewelry... a proof is a proof no matter what wear and tear it has, it was made dif. than regular coins, but if it was one of the proofs even holed and scratched it would be worth an ungodly amount of money!!!

I bet its worth between $5.00-$20.00

jon43 almost every proof coin is mirrored you can easily see a reflection in the coin In have a 1964,1965, and 1969 proof sets and you can see reflections in all the silver coins.
def. of proofs...
Not all proofs are the same. The most common understanding of proof is that the flat background parts of the coin have a highly polished "mirror" finish that shows a reflection I.E. mirror finish, and the raised parts of the design have a matt finish, giving a higher level of contrast between the two. This is achieved by sand-blasting the die, the hardened steel punch with which the blank coins are struck, to give a matt finish, followed by giving the raised parts of the die a highly polished surface, usually by polishing them with diamond powder. The coin blanks themselves are usually produced to a higher quality of finish before striking. Proof coins are usually double struck at lower striking speeds, to give a higher and sharper definition. They are usually produced on a special machine, and may be hand, rather than mechanically fed into and extracted from the coining press. They are usually individually inspected, and packaged. A proof coin should provide an excellent specimen, and its quality should approach perfection.
Some proof coins are made with an all matt finish, as for example the 1902 Edward VII Coronation proof coins, while others are produced as "reverse proofs", i.e. with the raised parts polished and the background matt.

hollowpointred I thought the same thing about proofs and coin collecting check this out!!

While hoarding coins due to their value goes back to the beginning of coinage, collecting them as art pieces was a later development. Known as the "Hobby of Kings", modern coin collecting is generally believed to have begun in the fourteenth century with Petrarch. Notes of Roman emperors having coin collections are also known, but it remains somewhat unclear whether these coins were studied, considered curiosities or were merely hoarded.




thank you all for your commets this is always fun!!

im sorry if it seem,ed like i was bashing you. also i forgot to tell you nice finds.

 

[jon43]

Monk has a great idea it may be a counterfiet coin... that would be so cool!!! I ahve a few counterfiet KG coppers I found not never an american coin!! thanks bud I hope thats it thanks everyone I got some great info here!! hh all

years back i found a counterfeit morgan dollar. when it was frist dug up you could still see the lady good and on the back you could see the eagle good. i did not store it right. on the back you can still make out some of the wings. if i get it wet, i see more details. crudely made

 

[j.d. in the usa]

wow Jon thats cool looking!! I found a real gun I didnt know about preserving it it disintegrated on me im still upset over that one

 

[savage59]

humm excuse me. its not proof-!

 

[Michigan Badger]

Well haha j.d....I dug 3 wheat cents today! So how do ya like them apples?

Man, if you ever started digging the crap I dig I'd take you off my hero list!

I don't know about the shiny coin but I had a large cent once that had been plated. Some good citizens did this to pass them off as half dollars back in the 1800's. But it wasn't as shiny as your coin.

I'd keep cool with that baby and see an expert. Ya got to watch those things because sometimes those suckers can be worth $$$$$$$.

Thanks for posting good buddy!

 

[j.d. in the usa]

hey badger!!! hehe

well now I'm more confused about it... I took it to a dealer that PCGS sent me too he's certified through them and ANA about an hour away... I thought it would be a quick "its a piece of junk"...
But he could not confirm nor deny what it is...its def. silver, the weight is right, and its not silver plated... so the mystery continues!! personnally I was hoping it was one of those counterfiet coins. but he seems to be pointing toward a real capped bust.
Theres a show in St. Louis in a few months and he wants to take it there. Thats what I'll probably do....well hh everyone!!!

 

[Joe88]

Awesome finds!!!
Maybe it's so shiny because someone lost it recently.....maybe a child who tapped into their father's coin collection
How deep was it?? Just an idea

Joe

 

[jorge del norte]

i think it was treated with a varnish, then lost. if it was jewelry, the owner may have not wanted to clean it and protected it with something......just a idea

 

[j.d. in the usa]

thanks guys!!

 

[River Rat]

JD,

Awesome find! Can't answer your ? but all I can say...you found it, it's yours.

HH
RR

 

[j.d. in the usa]

thanks RR !!

 

[northeast hunter]

Hay jd once again great find..Any way you look at it its a rare find.
You have what they call the large O varietie..Only 942,587 where minted
Being that old i would say it is in very fine cond.

MS cond.runs for about $10.000

 

[j.d. in the usa]

thanks bud!!!

 

[civilman1]

Sorry it took so long to view JD,but man,best of luck to you on this one.Totally awesome lookin' coin.Skeptic's are usually the jealous one's.WTG and HH!!

 

[j.d. in the usa]

thanks civilman1!!! boy your right about that!!!

 

[Mudslide]

JD, whatever it turns out to be, it is a great find. How exciting for you!!! You are digging some OLD stuff! Good going!

 

[Ricky1601 aka pull tab king]

WOW!!!!! I have no idea but beautiful and a totally awesome find........congradulations and remember the excitement of the find no matter how it turns out....thats what keeps us all detecting anyway...Please keep us informed and let us know what the final verdict is.....best of luck and HH

 

[Dave N Japan]

Yes, Nice find!!! Not a expert on that type...
Proof sets are double stamped and the raised part should be frosted. At leasst that is how it is these days.. I would think they did not have proof sets back then, but mint sets yes!
Proofs should never be touched by human hands and should never be outside of a holder of some kind.
Hope you find more soon! I wish I had found something like that!

 

[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

Hi all,

I think it is made from some other metal than silver that has A mirror shine.

1. If it was from 1820 and in the ground and used as jewelry it is most likely the mirror shine would be rubbed off. I found a proof quarter from 1978 in change and it has some mirror luster left but not much.

2. I think I see corrosion around the nail hole silver won't do that.

3. Rare

I purchased a 1857 $1 gold coin and it had a hole in it for jewelery and I payed melt value for it. You should see if the metal will peel or flake. I don't think its an orginal proof, but maybe who knows!

Keep @ it and HH!!