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Re: help with creek hunting.

seek out crossing areas and areas with nearby old homestead sites -- kids like to play near water --older folks too.
 

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As a kid I'd find arrowheads by chance and built a small collection, but only recently have I actually started seriously looking for relics. Regarding creek hunting, and still being a rookie, my best advice is not to rigidly define what a creek is. I live in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains and we have some very steep hills. I've had good luck on cleared powerlines with deep erosion. After a good rain (and they have been few here lately) these ditches basically become creeks. I've really been amazed at how gravity and erosion brings up the relics.

Also, don't overlook ditches and drainage that empty into larger creeks, especially in areas where there are flint chips and flakes. Most aren't going to produce, but if you do enough searching, you'll eventually come across some that do. This is easier than searching real creeks, because once the rain ceases, the ditch dries up and the flint shines. I found one area where a creek passes through a break in a limestone rock ridge. A ditch drains downs from the ridge, crosses a logging road and drains into the creek. It produces. I looked closely around this area and found a a camp site, probably a village site, that's keeping me busy.

Not sure if you're familiar with the non-pointed relics, but the tools keep me interested. Most people, me included until recently, don't pay much attention to the tools (or maybe not even recognize what they are), but they're just as historically important as the points - and a side benefit is that if an area is abundant in chips and tools, odds are that you're eventually going to find some points nearby.
I probably find 20 - 30 tools to every point and I bring them all home.

The main thing is to keep looking and try to find areas that others are too lazy to search. I walk sometimes 10 - 12 miles a day and when I find a good place nobody been there and nobody's watching.
 

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dustintimmons_83 said:
i see alot of people on here hunt rivers and creeks. i have a few nice rivers around here,but are to deep to look in,so ive been trying a few creeks around the corn fields i hunt,and with no luck at all. does anyone have any tips to help me on hunting these creeks. thanx
Hi Dustin,
You should read BadAndy,s posts to get Idea,s on creek walking.I found my first ever creek find just recently and I walked many creeks.I found fossils,crawfish,snakes,trash,leaves,slipped and busted my ass a few times.Even though I did finally find one my advice would be stick with the cornfields.Some people will argue that it is more likely to find un damaged points in a creek than a plowed field.JMO,but I totally disagree. You take something as fragile as flint and it washs down a creek after a heavy rain tumbling Against all those millions of other rocks the odds of finding a perfect or even half decent one are slim to none.I,ve never been to vermont,Missouri or Illinois so I don,t know what kind of creeks they have.As far as creeks or rivers go. I hunt.I have found spots where things wash out of the banks after a flood. I for one,can,t speak for others would much rather surface hunt.

Jeff
Ohio River Hunter
 

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I agree with Jeff about reading BadAndy's posts. I love the way he photographs the point in the water & then holds it up in his hand. I tried my luck creek hunting in Missouri last year, and believe me it's not as easy as you think...my honest opinion. The leaves were falling, some floating, some underwater. You really have to look hard, cause all those rocks can fool ya. I did manage to find 2 that you can really notice the knapping, but nothing perfect. Believe me, we don't have clear water type creeks in the bayous, more like coffee or chocolate milk. I'm use to hunting plowed fields after a rain.

;) RR
 

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where do i find the article from badandy,and i agree with you ohio rivert hunter. ive been hitting them rock bars ,but there are way to many leaves covering everything up and moss or somthing on all the rocks its pretty hard looking,but all my fieldds havnt been plowed yet and no rain,so my option are limited. thanx for the help and i enjoy the info i can get.
 

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Howdy Dustin. I think the main thing is good waders. I think you live in some of the best creek hunting areas in the country. The one blessing for the creek hunter is that, the climate changes during the archaic period created a situation where people lived close to water sources for over a thousand years during a dry period, followed by a thousand year wet period where all their stuff was buried, in sometimes pretty deep sediment. If you can hear by word of mouth of any creeks that turn up archaic stuff, I believe they are best chance to find something good. I believe many creeks have many rudimentary type, hide scraping tools, and food processing tools. At least mine seem to. ???
 

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ya bean man i would think that the creeks around here would be really good,but i dont know anyone who creek hunts so that makes a little harder.i got access to tons of creeks my family own alot of land that creeks run through,and they are where i hunt all my fields at.just dont realy know where to look at in the creeks. i know the gravel bars but other than that i know nothing.
 

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Just remember, a creek that is flowing, can change by the hour. I'm pretty new too, but I think, material and shape. I tend to scan fast, but go back over areas at different angles. The real good creek hunters, don't seem to want to give up their secrets. ???
 

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Dustin,
Sorry I haven't replied to this post yet, but have been super busy, and had a show over the weekend. i can help you out with creek hunting, but it's not easy. What ever you, don't quit looking! Tell you what, send me a P.M. if you really want help and we'll go from there.
badandy
 

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Get in touch with BadAndy... Seriously, he's the man when it comes to the creeks.

xstevenx
 

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thank you i will try to talk to him to see if he could help a little bit,and i appreciate any info i can get from anyone. thank you everyone for all the help. it is really nice to find a place were people will help you. thanks again dustin
 

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I may be in the minority here, but nevertheless, I am absolutely hooked on creek/river hunting. I have a friend who swears by the fields- so each to their own. We are seriously surrounded by ancient indian locations. So- several years ago, I was having bad shoulder problems, and needed an activity which would make my shoulder stronger both pre and post-op. I bought a cheep-o Sam's Club kayak. Best 300$ I ever spent. Honestly. We're surrounded by various waterways, miles and miles of options. Where there's water, there's civilization. I look for sandy/rocky-looking spots and erroded bluffs- with fields behind (erroding into the water). I've found many many artifacts over the 2+ years I've been looking. I've had lots of time, being out of work for shoulder reasons, so my average time out is probably a lot more than many folks. Sometimes 8 hours, sometimes 4. I do have the advantage of tidal waterways- which is a much gentler environment for the more fragile items. I have found stone items, flint, various ages. There is a trick to getting water and sunlight to work for you- making typical knapping stone shine bright- and almost leap into your hand. I have found very old points and bits in muddy/gooky (pluff mud) conditions- and that's rough. But you still look for that tell-tale 'worked' edge- somthing broken with a keen edge. I pick up a lot of nothing- and bend down to touch leaves more than I'd care to say, but the rewards have been outstanding. If you have larger waterways- lazier rivers with slow bends and errotion, you may have better luck. You're relying on nature to do the work, so look for where nature has had an impact on the land and go from there. Good luck- and happy hunting! And, by the way, definately pocket everything- even if you're not sure what it is. I call them 'suspicious rocks'. I've found out later what they are and am always glad I saved them! (or they go around the flower beds!)
Abbey
 

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heres all i could get up with the creek i hunted today
 

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Yeah thats going to be one hard creek to hunt! I will try and see if I have any creek pics. around here and post some for you. Right now all the leaves will make you think you see a point and get you hopes up, just to find out it's only a leaf. More rocks and gravel bars are what you want.
badandy
 

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Hi Dustin,
I've had real good luck on a river close to home. It's a gravel bar that's probably about fifty yards square and nothing but gravel like you see in the background of the pictures. It's kinda hard picking out an artifact from all those stones but I've found a number of points, scrapers and even some grit tempered pottery. Never tried any smaller streams though.
 

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i went crick hunting today and all ifound was alot flint flakes and a buck running at me,its filled with leaves because of the lack of raion here,but i think it will get better. dustin
 

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