How did YOU first KNOW you could DOWSE?

[TxMike]

I am curious as to how the various board members on here first learned they could dowse? Was it something that came on all at once or was it something that was gradual and became stronger with practice and experience?

I don't consider myself very accomplished at this at all but I have picked up old pipes, old foundations, and septic systems. I would like to improve my skills, hopefully under the guidance of some one that understands much more than I do about what is going on.

 

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[Hoppus]

I was only about 5 or 6 and my great grandfather came to visit. We went for a ride we stopped along side the road and he got out of the truck and cut a small tee branch. He took me back home and when we got out of the truck and started walking towards the house he told me that I could "water witch". He said he could do it, his dad could do it, and his granddad could do it. He put the little "Y" branch in my hands and showed me how to hold it and then just told me to walk around. I had no idea what I was doing or what was going on but when the stick dipped down and he told me what it meant I knew I could do it. I think that's the hardest thing for people. They start out with doubt in their minds and are really unable to clear this thought. It's like anything else, any kind of sport....like football....everyone can do it, some will do it better naturally, and others will be able to do it well by means of a lot of practice. Just remember, it works. Tune everything out and just go with it. Meditation helps a lot with dowsing and also with many different aspects of life so I highly recommend it one way or the other! If you have any questions or or looking for practice tips there a good handful of members willing to give their advice here. They've really helped me break through from just water dowsing to map dowsing and dowsing for other materials. Good luck!

 

[aarthrj3811]

Hey Hoppus...Along about 2002 I came to T-net to ask a simple question about LRL’s....I met some nice people and some very rude skeptics. I already knew that the rods could find treasure following man made signals. I became interested in Dowsing...I practiced until I became good at my new hobby..
I gave demonstrations at a high school for a few years and learned that most kids can find utility lines...The few that were not interested just stood by and tried to ignore the truth...Art

 

[TxMike]

Thank you all for the replies. I am going to make a conscious effort to refine this gift.

To be absolutely honest, I never gave dowsing any real thought until I saw some one use it to locate a buried pipe. He was an field engineer and as the "new guy on the crew" I thought, "This is just BS! He's the engineer. He has the maps. He knows EXACTLY where this thing is and is just trying to pull the wool over my eyes and make me the butt of this joke in front of my co-workers." and said so to him. His response was to make ME find the other pipe! The L rods were just two of those cheap metal pipe or line markers with the plastic flags torn off. He said that it should be "over there somewhere" and pointed me in a general direction. He told me to watch for when the rods crossed over each other, mark the spot and then try it from a different angle. I made it about 60-70 yds when the rods twitched over in my hands. I started thinking there was some kind of trick I don't know about so I walked off and tried it again with my eyes closed and I felt them move again in my hands. I gotta say, the hair went up on the back of my neck and I dropped the rods right there. The engineer laughed and said "Well, either ya got the touch or you don't and you got it. First time is always the weirdest. You'll get used to it" So we dug down where I marked and at about 2 feet we found the pipe. I still remember standing there in awe thinking to myself " No F'ing way is this real! I DID NOT just do that!"

So, besides practice and meditation, are there any preferred books out there for techiques? Just as important, any books out there that are just fluff or just a waste of time and money?

Thanks again,
Mike

 

[Plotus]

Does right or left handedness make a difference? ie. right brain left brain thing? I have no problem turning off my internal dialogue, well nearly none. Where I am it's also quite serene. I honestly never believed in dowsing, but belief or unbelief is moot. I have the desire, the time, and am willing to listen and learn. I think I want to set out on the quest to learn and cultivate this skill. As with everything, I will read, read, and read some more, along with looking to locate others around here who might be gifted.

 

[bay pirate]

Signal line said " remember when you daydream"

I do it by focusing my thoughts to a white piece of paper. It's a metaphor for empty, it allows me to slow my heart rate and just experience. It sounds crazy but imagine a simple white piece of paper and what it looks like.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Hey bay pirate...thanks...I always like new experiments to try..art

 

[Goodyguy]

My grandpa was what some folks called a water witcher. He would cut a forked stick from a willow tree that was on his farm and use it to show folks where to dig their well where the water was closest to the surface.

When I was 10 years old he showed me how to hold the stick and what to feel for. At the time I thought it was pretty cool although back then I called it Neato.
I soon lost interest in the new toy and moved on to other things like rabbit hunting, fishing, exploring the woods, etc.

Later in life when I became fascinated with treasure hunting and gold prospecting in particular and even later became a member of Treasure Net I decided to add dowsing to my arsenal of prospecting equipment after seeing the dowsing forum. I never doubted that dowsing worked because of my childhood experience with grandpa.

Anyway I built my own set of L-rods and started practicing finding a gold nugget hidden under one of several plates by my wife while I was out of the room. Turned out I could find the nugget every time. Since then I have received much encouragement and tutelage from experts in the field such as aarthrj3811, Dell Winders, and others.

I found out that there was a lot more to it than just finding a nugget under a plate and started to practice finding the nugget when I had no clue of where to look other than it's outside in the back yard. That's when I found out that overhead power lines, buried water pipes, and other distractions made the exercise much harder. But through practice was able to "feel" what the different signals were and through practice was able to rule out the false signals to find the gold.

Since then I have been able to use the rods to find objects other than gold and found it much easier to do by the use of a "witness". The use of the witness was recommended to me be by either Art of Dell (memory fails) and it sure made all the difference in making the practice sessions more productive.

And I mean practice, practice, and more practice for hours and days and weeks. It just isn't automatic even when you have some natural ability to aid you.

Best wishes,
GG~

 

[Southern4shur]

For me, I dont even have to meditate, never did. It's like my rods are going to show me what they want to show me. I guess most anyone can learn to dowse but my first mistake was trying to train my rods to show me whatever I was looking for. But I've learned so much since then. I don't tell the rods to show me anything anymore. It's like they know what I'm most interested in finding. All I do now is practice and learn what they are telling me. By practicing I mean I hold the rods and in my mind or out loud I think or say, " what will you show me if I'm approaching gold and/or silver? What will you show me if Im about to approach an Indian reservation, or hidden treasures" I let them naturally train me instead of me trying to train them. I let the energies show me what they want to. I've learned that it's like a language of its own, or like sign language, you just have to remember what the movements mean like learning to sign with hands but instead with rods. There's a different movement for abc's numbers, colors, events, and nouns I guess you'd say, people places and things. If you can memorize the movements of what the rods are telling you then you are good to go. I've learned also, using one rod it much different than using 2. If you use 2 then you can get way more details, but it's harder to memorize what 2 rods mean than just one. If you want to learn what it feels like to dowse with rods, go to an old cemetery. They will easily cross when your standing on a grave. Once you get the feel of the rods and use to them, they will even tell you if it's a baby child or an adult in the grave. When your really lose and comfortable then they will even tell you if it's a male or female in the grave. ive learned the language so much that I dont even visit grave yards with them anymore. It scared me at first, now it amazes me what all they willingly tell without even asking. I have learned so much about dowsing with L rods that if I could sit still enough I'd write a book on it. My fav kind dowsing is driving through an old town, while holding 1 rod in my right hand. it tells me where old homesites were, which mean Old bottles!!!!!!! I'd love to put a video on here of my treasures but I can't figure out how to add a video. Anyway. If you let the rods train you on what they are trying to tell you, instead of trying to train your rods, then they will show you a lot more and are more specific on where and what and how. Also, by letting them do all the talking and showing, it will be exactly the same sign meanings for you as it is for me. For instance if Im only holding one rod, the word yes is going to point straight out to the outside, if it says no it will swing in and hit your chest. But with 2 rods it's the exact opposite. I don't usually just tell people I'm a downer because many think I'm a witch or a devil worshipper but, it has nothing to do with witchcraft, or worshipping anything. It's natural energy pulls from the earth. Indians even dowsed to show them where to make home, and where to put the points of there mounds. I don't know a lot about the crop circles but type in dowsing crop circles and read about it. It's earths energies. Most people are afraid of what they can't explain so it scares a lot of people. But dowsing isn't bad at all unless a person wants to use it for evil bs. Like like, it's all what you make it. It's really made me wonder what the part in the bible means when it says "Thy rod and thy staff they comfort me." I believe God put these energies here for us, but so many people think its bad, especially if they can't do it. God gave us gifts, we just got to figure out what they are and use these gifts for good natural reasons. Not like talkin to the dead and crap. It's all what you make it.

 

[Southern4shur]

Does right or left handedness make a difference? ie. right brain left brain thing? I have no problem turning off my internal dialogue, well nearly none. Where I am it's also quite serene. I honestly never believed in dowsing, but belief or unbelief is moot. I have the desire, the time, and am willing to listen and learn. I think I want to set out on the quest to learn and cultivate this skill. As with everything, I will read, read, and read some more, along with looking to locate others around here who might be gifted.

It doesn't matter which hand, it will be a mirror image of what the opposite does. Try using a rod in each hand. Walk outside and think about the corner of your house and then walk passed your house and watch what they do. Then walk till you pass the other end of your house. One will point straight, the other will turn sideways showing you its the corner of your house. Then walk towards the corner and they will X to show you your at the corner of your house.

 

[Southern4shur]

Thank you all for the replies. I am going to make a conscious effort to refine this gift.

To be absolutely honest, I never gave dowsing any real thought until I saw some one use it to locate a buried pipe. He was an field engineer and as the "new guy on the crew" I thought, "This is just BS! He's the engineer. He has the maps. He knows EXACTLY where this thing is and is just trying to pull the wool over my eyes and make me the butt of this joke in front of my co-workers." and said so to him. His response was to make ME find the other pipe! The L rods were just two of those cheap metal pipe or line markers with the plastic flags torn off. He said that it should be "over there somewhere" and pointed me in a general direction. He told me to watch for when the rods crossed over each other, mark the spot and then try it from a different angle. I made it about 60-70 yds when the rods twitched over in my hands. I started thinking there was some kind of trick I don't know about so I walked off and tried it again with my eyes closed and I felt them move again in my hands. I gotta say, the hair went up on the back of my neck and I dropped the rods right there. The engineer laughed and said "Well, either ya got the touch or you don't and you got it. First time is always the weirdest. You'll get used to it" So we dug down where I marked and at about 2 feet we found the pipe. I still remember standing there in awe thinking to myself " No F'ing way is this real! I DID NOT just do that!"

So, besides practice and meditation, are there any preferred books out there for techiques? Just as important, any books out there that are just fluff or just a waste of time and money?

Thanks again,
Mike

My opinion on the best way to really learn is to go off by yourself, and just think or ask out loud, " What is the sign for gold, what is the sign for silver, etc. also. Ive learned if you are using 2 rods, and they are telling you something, whatever it is, for instance when I use them for forensic purposes ask how a person was killed, they will show me and when they are finished telling me then they kiss, I mean each end will touch each other. That's how I know they are done telling me what I want to know. I've searched everywhere looking for some book or someone to tell me what the rods movements mean until finally I got a notebook and pencil and wrote down all words I wanted to know the sign of, then I'd write down what the left one did and then what the right one did in case I forgot I could go back and look. I've learned that a lot are not important. But a lot are. I always ask for them to show me what they want to before I reach the area, that way if your walking in the woods and it shows you the sign for snake,you know to watch for it. Most of all I ask important things, like show me the sign for danger, memorize the sign! It's honestly saved me before and possibly saved my life a few times. When it shows me danger, I can now say show me what's ahead and it will show me the sign. A lot of times like yesterday, it was showing danger sign when I pointed to the river , i still got on my jet ski, but used major caution, went slow, 2 miles an hour actually is all i could go, wind was blowing really hard, was blowing so hard white caps were pushing water into where I put my feet, I drove it straight to where I was going to hunt and tied it up and hunted all day. Just helps u to be aware of what's around in your path. Either turn back or if you have huntin fever like I do pray about it be cautious on your way! Heh

 

[Goodyguy]

I had posted without reading any of the comments except for the original posters first post. Just finished reading the thread and can see a commonality of method even though perhaps the vocabulary in the posts may make it seem otherwise.

Practice is one commonality. Meditation is another, even though the act of meditating sounds to some people like you are "willing" an action,
actually meditation is the opposite. It is a way of allowing a person to empty their mind of conscious purposeful willful distracting thoughts thereby allowing the in tune with the natural subconscious mind to be in control. And that takes practice to accomplish the degree of sophistication necessary to be proficient at dowsing.

Actually all the practice in dowsing is practicing to allow the subconscious mind to be in control while the consious mind interpets the results.

Our whole lives have been spent practicing to make conscious decisions and observations.
Allowing the subconscious to override a lifetime of practice doesn't come easy for most folks.

Whether you know it or not, that has to happen before you can learn to dowse effectively and proficiently. Once you reach that level it becomes easier to be consciously aware of the communication with your subconscious mind without disrupting the results.

Southern4shur seems to have reached that level of communication by consciously learning what the rods (subconscious ideometer response) are telling her.

Go for the gold
GG~

*NOTE I use the word "subconscious" to refer to what it is that we are tapping into...... for all I know it could really be hyperconsciousness or superconsciousness or ultraconsciousness, etc. Whatever you want to call it, when we access it we are able to use devices such as rods, pendulums, etc. to help us find what it is that we seek.

 

[grzbear]

When i was a young boy I was out with my father looking for a spot for a new well . He was well known for his water witching skills in the community , he would use a hand saw held buy the tip . when the handle would start to bounce up and down he knew he was on water . After he found that well site he handed me the saw and told me to try -- nothing-- he put his hand on my shoulder and sure enough it started to bounce . Sure can,t explain it but genetics must play a part .

 

[coyote3]

When I was a child my mom would map dowse for gold using a gold ring on a string or a sewing needle on a string. She could get the needle swinging four inches in a circle until she got over a gold hotspot and it would just stop and she would drop it down to the map and put a dot on it. Can't remember if we every found much gold, but that pendulum sure did swing like crazy. Started doing it like mom did and knew there had to be a better way of doing it. Found Jerry Nokes website and bought his course. His method of map dowsing is the most scientific and logical way of map dowsing ever. He has done this method for 35 years now and it works. I have used it. I recommend it for anyone if they get tired of carrying a pendulum around everywhere. You wont need it and it works better. I believe it is genetic... And I am left handed to and I can say that L Rods do swing a little different than when a right hander is using them. They say left handers bodies sometime can be out of balance cause we think with our left side of the brain and then respond with the left side of our body. Fortunately I am ambidextrous. Cant throw a ball left handed, but I have to shoot a gun or basketball left handed cause I cant do it right handed.

 

[Southern4shur]

I had posted without reading any of the comments except for the original posters first post. Just finished reading the thread and can see a commonality of method even though perhaps the vocabulary in the posts may make it seem otherwise.

Practice is one commonality. Meditation is another, even though the act of meditating sounds to some people like you are "willing" an action,
actually meditation is the opposite. It is a way of allowing a person to empty their mind of conscious purposeful willful distracting thoughts thereby allowing the in tune with the natural subconscious mind to be in control. And that takes practice to accomplish the degree of sophistication necessary to be proficient at dowsing.

Actually all the practice in dowsing is practicing to allow the subconscious mind to be in control while the consious mind interpets the results.

Our whole lives have been spent practicing to make conscious decisions and observations.
Allowing the subconscious to override a lifetime of practice doesn't come easy for most folks.

Whether you know it or not, that has to happen before you can learn to dowse effectively and proficiently. Once you reach that level it becomes easier to be consciously aware of the communication with your subconscious mind without disrupting the results.

Southern4shur seems to have reached that level of communication by consciously learning what the rods (subconscious ideometer response) are telling him.

Go for the gold
GG~

*NOTE I use the word "subconscious" to refer to what it is that we are tapping into...... for all I know it could really be hyperconsciousness or superconsciousness or ultraconsciousness, etc. Whatever you want to call it, when we access it we are able to use devices such as rods, pendulums, etc. to help us find what it is that we seek.

Hey! Just wanted to say Im female not male. Im a tomboy but all girl. Anyway, ive never known that it even takes meditation. Its just always been a natural thing for me since I first picked up my Lrods. I havent tried the Y stick yet, I have tried pendulum dowsing on a map. I feel it working but I feel so much more with the Lrods. Ive read somewhere that it has to do with the amount of metals in a persons body? Who knows. Its an amazing experience for sure what ever it is. Ive learned that I can hold my rods in different ways also to get better results. I use my Lrods to map dowse by turning my rod upside down and scanning a map this way. When I find my approximate location then I push my rod straight up on the map while thinking ,"dont let me pass my target" the rod will go in a straight line until it reaches the target then will lose its balance when I get to my target and will swing off to the right or left hard. There is a woman named Ginnete Lucas whoms father is an expert dowser and trains the military to dowse for mines. She has told me to never turn my rods upside down but it works for me. I guess some things work for some while some wont? She also said to always face north when dowsing but I always get the same results no matter which direction Im facing. She did teach me one trick though that helped me. When my rods are still and not wanting to give me an answer, she told me to turn my head to the left and it works. She said your head it like an antenna and when you turn it to the left it picks up better frequencys some how. Anyway. There is a few tips some of you may want to try to see if this helps for those of you new to dowsing. Dowsing to me is like this. Liberachi was a genius on the piano. But the 1st time he sat down at the piano he didnt know what the keys even sounded like therefore he had to listen to the keys and memorize there sounds, once he did that he was absolutely amazing, but it took him time to figure it out. He was a natural. I Have sat down at the piano many times, played every key, and still I do good to play mary had a little lamb. Im sure I could be taught and if I practiced alot I could maybe play pretty good one day, but Im not a natural at it. I am a natural at dowsing and it came easy for me. I just had to listen and learn what the "keys" were telling me. Just like Liberachi, it still took time and learning before I knew. For a new dowser, i suggest this. Get someone to drive you around. Not in an old busy historic town or your rods will go bizerk! Find a road that has history. You in the passenger seat, with a rod in each hand, ( mine can even be cut wire clothes hangers shaped into an L, 6 inches long and they will show me things just as well as any expensive rods you can buy) when you cross over a bridge both rods will turn outward and get real stiff until you pass over the bridge. I always feel like my left hand is my seeker, it looks for things for my right hand to tell me about. I call my right hand my tattle tale. Where ever the left hand rod points to is where my right hand rod is telling me what was there. One of my daughters is not a natural, but she will still get the outward stiff pull when crossing over a bridge etc and Ive notice that most anyone will get certain things like this. If you are riding down the road, and both rods suddenly turn and point to the left, then you can bet there was an old 1800s homestead or store or some sort of building that use to be there. Thats where I will stop and look for an old fence line or ditch to dig for my old bottles jugs and jars and metal detect. Also. When this happens, and they both point towards where an old place was, i always ask, ," what was there. One rod goes exacy straight and the other goes exactly sideways and they shape a perfect L, it means an old home was there. If the left rod goes straight and the right rod is almost an L but not quite then depending on the angle of the right rod it is telling you whether it was a store, mill, barn, saloon etc. ask your rods to show you, what is store, what is saloon what is barn. Let the rods show you what their sign is for those things and memorize them. That way you know what was there before you stop. I also ask them to show me which direction to go that I will find the most artifacts when Im looking at the river. If they tell me to go right, then I go to the right side of the river, then I ask what side of the river will I find the most artifacts, they will point me. Im going to try and find out how I could put a video on here of the treasures Ive found. Dowsing is an awesome way to get the best results out of a hunt. My biggest goal lately is trying to learn how to locate missing people. Anyone have any suggestions on this?

 

[aarthrj3811]

Hey Southern4shur...I like reading how Dowsing works for others. I have map dowsed for lost animals and even a dead deer. I Dowsed for a missing pilot. I sent maps to everyone I could think of..I got that he was alive....Months later they found him dead in my area...I will not dowse for missing people again...

 

[Goodyguy]

OOPS...... Southern4shur sorry about the typo, I fixed it

Sorry, I didn't mean it to sound like everyone has to meditate (I don't meditate) just that it takes the ability to achieve a state of mind that allows the phenomenon to operate. Some use meditation to achieve that state while others tap into it by other means or just naturally.

A keen sense of awareness works in much the same way and is likely related to the same mechanism.
Trying to explain exactly how dowsing works is well over my head

GG~

 

[Southern4shur]

Hey Southern4shur...I like reading how Dowsing works for others. I have map dowsed for lost animals and even a dead deer. I Dowsed for a missing pilot. I sent maps to everyone I could think of..I got that he was alive....Months later they found him dead in my area...I will not dowse for missing people again...

Yeah it can get spooky fer sure! But, we have many missing women in my area. I believe that my daughter was approached by the kidnapper as she sat in the truck one day when me and my hubby was digging an old dump site in a ditch. I also believe that she would have been one of his victims if we hadnt come up out of the ditch when we did and scared him away. It was only 5 months later when Holly Bobo was abducted from her home and her home is only about 10-15 minutes from where he approached our daughter thinking she was alone. Since Holly came up missing, i have met her family and gave them and TBI a description of the guy and his truck. Ive been trying to help find Holly for almost 2 years now. I guess because of the incident with my daughter and Holly, and me being a female treasure hunter who hunts alone sometimes in rural places , seeing the impact it made on Hollys family since she poofed from thin air, it has really made me more concerned in finding Holly and the man who took her more than it would for alot of people. I have dowsed an area where I think she could be. Im afraid to get anyones hopes up, also afraid that if Im right then noone would believe I found her by dowsing. Im really curios to hear from other dowsers on locating people, especially Holly. If you were to meet her family youd see how bad it has corrupted all of there lives. My daughter resembles Holly alot, and is about the same age as Holly. I know it could happen to anyone and it almost happened to my family. I believe dowsing works, i can prove it works with alot of things, just not sure about locating missing people. Sometimes, ive learned, that once a certain thing or area gets stuck in our head then it all of our answers we get about it will not be based on true details. So Im afraid that this place i have dowsed and the answers im getting could be false. Hollys mother does not want any part of dowsing, shes told me herself that it creeps her out, i think she thinks its a sort of witchcraft like alot of other people, she doesnt understand the earths energies and it scares her. So, I dont know how to go about asking someone to search the spot Ive dowsed. I guess what I really am hoping for is that someone else would dowse for Holly and come up with the same location as I have. If they do then Id make sure to find someone who will check it out. I want to help them find Holly so bad for closure. Whether shes alive or dead the family needs this. If anyone of you dowsers will dowse for Holly Bobo and come up with a location for her will you please email me the location to southern4shur@yahoo.com or text it to my hubbys cell phone at 731-206-0750. Im really curious to know if any location will match the location I came up with.

 

[Southern4shur]

Yeah it can get spooky fer sure! But, we have many missing women in my area. I believe that my daughter was approached by the kidnapper as she sat in the truck one day when me and my hubby was digging an old dump site in a ditch. I also believe that she would have been one of his victims if we hadnt come up out of the ditch when we did and scared him away. It was only 5 months later when Holly Bobo was abducted from her home and her home is only about 10-15 minutes from where he approached our daughter thinking she was alone. Since Holly came up missing, i have met her family and gave them and TBI a description of the guy and his truck. Ive been trying to help find Holly for almost 2 years now. I guess because of the incident with my daughter and Holly, and me being a female treasure hunter who hunts alone sometimes in rural places , seeing the impact it made on Hollys family since she poofed from thin air, it has really made me more concerned in finding Holly and the man who took her more than it would for alot of people. I have dowsed an area where I think she could be. Im afraid to get anyones hopes up, also afraid that if Im right then noone would believe I found her by dowsing. Im really curios to hear from other dowsers on locating people, especially Holly. If you were to meet her family youd see how bad it has corrupted all of there lives. My daughter resembles Holly alot, and is about the same age as Holly. I know it could happen to anyone and it almost happened to my family. I believe dowsing works, i can prove it works with alot of things, just not sure about locating missing people. Sometimes, ive learned, that once a certain thing or area gets stuck in our head then it all of our answers we get about it will not be based on true details. So Im afraid that this place i have dowsed and the answers im getting could be false. Hollys mother does not want any part of dowsing, shes told me herself that it creeps her out, i think she thinks its a sort of witchcraft like alot of other people, she doesnt understand the earths energies and it scares her. So, I dont know how to go about asking someone to search the spot Ive dowsed. I guess what I really am hoping for is that someone else would dowse for Holly and come up with the same location as I have. If they do then Id make sure to find someone who will check it out. I want to help them find Holly so bad for closure. Whether shes alive or dead the family needs this. If anyone of you dowsers will dowse for Holly Bobo and come up with a location for her will you please email me the location to southern4shur@yahoo.com or text it to my hubbys cell phone at 731-206-0750. Im really curious to know if any location will match the location I came up with.

Also, just wanted to say, when you dowsed for the missing pilot, he still could have been alive while you were dowsing. Did the location that you dowsed him to be in match where they found his body? Also, its not a bad thing to find a missing dead person, i think its great to have the ability to help locate them. Imagine a loved one gone all of a sudden, id much rather find out that they are dead than to wonder my whole life if they were alive or dead, if they were being hurt or if they are ok. I dont think I could handle never knowing if my child was still alive and the thought of someone torturing them, i think I could handle it alot easier if I knew they were dead than not ever knowing anything at all.

 

[greengold]

Thank you all for the replies. I am going to make a conscious effort to refine this gift.

To be absolutely honest, I never gave dowsing any real thought until I saw some one use it to locate a buried pipe. He was an field engineer and as the "new guy on the crew" I thought, "This is just BS! He's the engineer. He has the maps. He knows EXACTLY where this thing is and is just trying to pull the wool over my eyes and make me the butt of this joke in front of my co-workers." and said so to him. His response was to make ME find the other pipe! The L rods were just two of those cheap metal pipe or line markers with the plastic flags torn off. He said that it should be "over there somewhere" and pointed me in a general direction. He told me to watch for when the rods crossed over each other, mark the spot and then try it from a different angle. I made it about 60-70 yds when the rods twitched over in my hands. I started thinking there was some kind of trick I don't know about so I walked off and tried it again with my eyes closed and I felt them move again in my hands. I gotta say, the hair went up on the back of my neck and I dropped the rods right there. The engineer laughed and said "Well, either ya got the touch or you don't and you got it. First time is always the weirdest. You'll get used to it" So we dug down where I marked and at about 2 feet we found the pipe. I still remember standing there in awe thinking to myself " No F'ing way is this real! I DID NOT just do that!"

So, besides practice and meditation, are there any preferred books out there for techiques? Just as important, any books out there that are just fluff or just a waste of time and money?

Thanks again,
Mike

I learned to do this same thing when i was about 10 years old. We used metal coat hangers that we bent into L shapes. I could find a buried water line in my yard no problem. Tried it again 2o years later on a construction site, we were digging post holes and didnt want to hit a water line we new was close by, i still had my mojo. My boss didnt believe me and he tried it, to no avail, ha ha, he was a jerk anyway. I think some people just have the touch and some dont. Who knows? As for the dowsers that use hanging objects over maps, im still a skeptic. Try this.... hang a heavy object like a washer from a string over anything (paper, desk, whatever) and hold it very still. Start thinking about it rotating or moving and it will. I learned this at a summer football camp in highschool, the moral of the lecture was that your brain can send tiny impulses to your muscles without actually trying to physically move the object. interesting stuff.