HUNT WITH KEITH ( UGOTIT) 1829 JACKSON INAUGURAL BUTTON & 1840 HT TOKEN

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

HUNT WITH KEITH ( UGOTIT22) 1829 JACKSON INAUGURAL BUTTON & 1840 HT TOKEN

Got out for a half of day to some cellar holes i been to before,Keith (ugotit22) met up with me later in the day at the sites. 1st site gave up the token.thought it was some kind of old political token and pouched it.went up to another site.1st target was this tiny childs ring no markings and its gold plated and looks fairly old. then I dug a larger tombac and a small cuff button.then behind me i caught a glimpse of someone scared the crap outta me .it was Keith

.we then went down to another hole.he got a fattie somethin..IH or flying eagle not sure until he cleans it up and posts. i got one more button then we called it a day.
cleaning last button i see a weird backmark i never seen before? under the loop i see ANDREW JACKSON MARCH 4,1829 plain front.it's a inaugural button! how cool and what a suprise!
and i looked up the token,it's considered a hard times token just a smaller variety so im counting it as a copper!

.thanks keith and I wish you and your wife to be (saturday)many years of happiness!

TOKEN INFO BELOW

HT 77B Low 183B XF-45 R-8

Martin Van Buren. Independent Treasury. Gilt Copper. Pain edge. 24mm. Holed for suspension as made. MVB 1840-8. Numbers 77, 77A and 77B always occur holed. 77 has either a plain or diagonally reeded edge, while 77A and B have a plain edge. These pieces may not have seen currency use.


Holed as made. Traces of gilding (10%) remain around the rims.


The Robert Schonwalter Collection of U.S. Hard Times Tokens, Stacks, January 20, 2004, lot 2303.
Ex. New Netherlands Coin Company, May 17, 1952. Noted as Bought as L162.



Alan S. Fisher Hard Times Token Collection


Anyone know how old this sledgehammer axe is? is it colonial?

 

[oldsalty19]

Those places in the woods are really cool......good hunting

 

[Nooberz]

That is a sick button man! The token is a pretty sweet find as well. Nice Hunt!

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Great hunt for sure, my Hard Times Token book indicates it is either a 77 or 77A, does not mention a 77B, HT 78 are entirely different. Since your HT is copper, it lists the Rarity at 5. Excellent find. Update: After looking at the reference you gave on the token, it is probably more up to date than Rulau's HT book, so perhaps it is the higher rarity variety, seems to be some differences in descriptions. Hope it is the R-8 variety, especially since condition is rather good.

The Andrew Jackson button appears to be the most rare one listed in Alberts book PC 82 "The inscription ANDREW JACKSON MARCH 4 AD 1829" with 24 stars encircling on back of button; 1 piece. RV 250 (Albert's Relative Value system in the 1970s) Yes, those buttons were plain faced. One reason it always pays to clean the backs of plain buttons, especially in that size range.

Don

thanks for all this info Don! but can you put rv250 into english terms? what's it mean?

 

[Don in SJ]

thanks for all this info Don! but can you put rv250 into english terms? what's it mean?

I think you have to take his RV values from the 1970s with a grain of salt, with that said, a 250 value from Alberts is like Very Rare in my opinion, and like I said of all the Andrew Jackson buttons, the RV value was the highest of all of them, so you found the best one to find. I have no idea market value, and would only be giving a wild guess so I won't. If someone belongs to the Worth Point site, you could see what one went for back in 2007. ANDREW JACKSON CAMPAIGN BUTTON (1829), Civil War Camp

Don

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

thanks for all this info Don! but can you put rv250 into english terms? what's it mean?

i saw a old stacks auction and it sold for $220.thanks again Don for your expertise ;O)

 

[ugotit22]

nice stuff Dave. It was fun getting out with ya. That jackson is sick and to think we thought it was just a flat button. Pretty sick. My fatty turned out to be a 1863 indian so no flying eagle . its ok though still happy with the fatty. Had a great time, can't wait to get out again when I get back from the honeymoon

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

nice stuff Dave. It was fun getting out with ya. That jackson is sick and to think we thought it was just a flat button. Pretty sick. My fatty turned out to be a 1863 indian so no flying eagle . its ok though still happy with the fatty. Had a great time, can't wait to get out again when I get back from the honeymoon

yeah ya scared the beJesus outta me,sneakin up on me like that nice huntin with you.glad your fatty is in decent shape. again congrats to you both & your new life together

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

Great digs as usual and the Jackson is actually, quite rare , an outstanding find
again !

CMDdawg