Hunting the Camp of the 72nd Ind. Inf., 74th Ind. Inf., & 105th Ohio Inf. Today

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Hunting the Camp of the 72nd Ind. Inf., 74th Ind. Inf., & 105th Ohio Inf. Today

We owe this one to Tennessee Digger (Donnie). Between 20-25 years ago, he discovered a diary of a Union CW Soldier with the 72nd Indiana Infantry. This was Col. Wilder’s Regiment (Wilder’s Lightning Brigade was so named as it later became the first regiment to use the Spencer repeating rifles against the Confederates) and one Sgt. Later became the 24th Governor of Indiana. Donnie, his son, and a friend discovered the site and hunted the camp twice before losing permission because one of the landowners had a boss who hunted for relics. He told me that Dman and I should pursue getting permission and check it out. This camp was there for about 2 weeks beginning Dec. 14, 1862 and consisted of the 72nd and 74th Indiana infantry plus the 105th Ohio Infantry. The combined strength of these 3 regiments was over 2,900 men.
I contacted the landowners and we discovered that we had some mutual friends so we were in. I made a solo sortie (Dman still not 100% with his broken leg yet) to the farm on Jan. 31 but only found a big piece of melted lead on an adjoining farm where I had secured permission, a fired .44 cal. ball, and an 1890 “V” nickel. I was 100% convinced that Donnie’s information was accurate so I returned yesterday. This was not a virgin site as others had been allowed to hunt there. I backed off from the area where Donnie and crew had located relics figuring that nearly 3,000 men needed a very large area to camp in. Within 10 minutes of entering the 60 acre field, I dug a dropped bullet. My finds from that hunt are shown in the first pic. I dug my first halfway solid ration can and my 2nd Austrian-Lorenz Rifle tool (“Y”shaped tool). The brass buckle in the lower right appears to be Colonial period. I dug 20 bullets and left so Dman wouldn’t accuse me of being a “relic hog”-LOL. The majority of the dropped 3 ringers had been pulled and the tent lines could easily be determined by the bullet recoveries. I was surprised that the relics were only 5-6 inches deep.
We returned today and had a plesant cnversation with the landowner who graciously let us drive back into the farm with my 4x4 so Dman wouldn't need to walk so far. Our combined finds are shown in the 2nd pic. I had stashed some 5 gal. buckets for us to sit on as Dman still needs an occasional break. He said he got up, walked four steps, and dug a bullet. I told him that I purposely set the buckets near the bullets where he wouldn't need to walk too far-LOL. The last pic is Dman enjoying a snack break on his bucket seat and showing his relics. He dug a U.S. bayonet scabbard tip today and I dug one Friday. Not a double BB & Shane-but close. HH, Quindy.

My 2012 CW Relics YTD=105
 

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Re: Hunting the Camp of the 72nd Ind. Inf., 74th Ind. Inf., & 105th Ohio Inf. Today

Thanks Dwight, G.R., MM, Dawg, Missouri J. , Hutch, Bill, Rob, MT4, Tater, Woodland Mike, Roger, Steve, BB, Don, and Arty.
CurbdiggerCarl57 said:
You know, if he was a horse, you'd have to shoot him.

You know, if he keeps digging like he does, you'll have to shoot him.

Carl
As much trouble as he's been and the way he aggravates me CDC, I have thought about it -LOL. HH, Quindy.

tennessee digger, you made this happen and I appreciate the confidence that you showed in me regarding locating an unhunted part of the camp. HH, Q.
 

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I can't take too much credit Quindy. It was up to you to go back in there and locate something. I simply lead the horse to water. I didn't make him drink. Had you not been so persistant those bullets would have never been found. So, It was you and not me that made that place happen. Go back up there and get you some more!!! Tennessee digger
 

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VOL1266-X said:
Nana40 said:
So the owner gave you permisson AND let you drive the truck thru the place. 8) Wonder if he'd allow girls to dig there too? :tongue3: :D
Ya'll did good!! :icon_pirat: Lots 'o fine keepers there!! That site should keep you two busy for a while! :icon_thumright:

Nana :wink:
I'm sure he would Nanners. Landowners prefer blondes-LOL,. Q.
YeeHaw! Just got my hair did, so I'm good to go! :D
 

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Wooo Hooo, ya'll were kickin' chicken today! I like the accommodations too! :thumbsup: Breezie
 

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Breezie said:
Wooo Hooo, ya'll were kickin' chicken today! I like the accommodations too! :thumbsup: Breezie
I need to clarify something Breezie. The buckets were in the woods near the field and I spied them on Monday. Not a big deal to walk 50 yards and set them where the tent lines were. He would have done the same for me but I certainly hope he does not ever have to-LOL. HH, Q.
 

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Great finds and write up. How long does it take to get to Tennessee from South Louisiana?? I can come up there and show you how to get doubles :icon_pirat: Shane
 

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shanegalang said:
Great finds and write up. How long does it take to get to Tennessee from South Louisiana?? I can come up there and show you how to get doubles :icon_pirat: Shane
About 10 hours Shane but you better hurry as you have a hunt with BB tomorrow. Hope you guys dig some good coins & relics, Q.
 

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Nice finds Quindy. I finally got a Saturday off so I can hunt. :hello2: I hope we find something but just getting out with friends is priceless.
 

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nice finds and story, love hearing about camps found through old cw journals, good stuff :icon_thumleft:
 

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nice finds guys! question? why did so many soldiers drop bullets at camps? I mean obviously they were important and if one drops i would assume it's not that hard to bend down and pick it up :laughing7: i'm no CW expert but this question always baffled me. I can see in battle yeah but at a camp :icon_scratch:
 

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treasurehound said:
Nice finds Quindy. I finally got a Saturday off so I can hunt. :hello2: I hope we find something but just getting out with friends is priceless.
Thanks Randy and I hope you and guy did a bunch of good relics. HH, Quindy.
BobinSouthVA said:
nice finds and story, love hearing about camps found through old cw journals, good stuff :icon_thumleft:
Thanks Bob and continued good huntin', Quindy.
HEAVYMETALNUT said:
nice finds guys! question? why did so many soldiers drop bullets at camps? I mean obviously they were important and if one drops i would assume it's not that hard to bend down and pick it up :laughing7: i'm no CW expert but this question always baffled me. I can see in battle yeah but at a camp :icon_scratch:
Dave, I am no CW expert either but I do have a few theories:
1. They had no weedeaters or mowers back then and natural grasses were high in fields when new camps were established. The Union Soldiers (especially) had plenty of bullets so they did not bother looking for them in the grass in camps.
2. Many drops have minor CW period (not by disks or plows) imperfections and the soldiers may have discarded them because they felt like the accuracy of the projectile may be adversely affected.
3. In the case of this camp, it rained during the 12 days they camped there. Tenn. Digger let me borrow the diary and it rained there on Wed. Dec. 24, 1862 according to the soldier. As a result, about two thirds of the bullets we have recovered there to date have been pulled. Col. Wilder moved the soldiers to this site as he feared an attack from CSA cavalry and the new site was stategically advantagous. Fearing an attack, they naturally pulled the bullets and reloaded with fresh dry powder.
4. In some cases, the powder pre-packaged with the bullets may have gotten wet and the whole package was discarded leaving a perfect factory made bullet behind.
I'm sure there are more reasons but these come to mind Dave. HH, Quindy.
 

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VOL1266-X said:
treasurehound said:
Nice finds Quindy. I finally got a Saturday off so I can hunt. :hello2: I hope we find something but just getting out with friends is priceless.
Thanks Randy and I hope you and guy did a bunch of good relics. HH, Quindy.
BobinSouthVA said:
nice finds and story, love hearing about camps found through old cw journals, good stuff :icon_thumleft:
Thanks Bob and continued good huntin', Quindy.
HEAVYMETALNUT said:
nice finds guys! question? why did so many soldiers drop bullets at camps? I mean obviously they were important and if one drops i would assume it's not that hard to bend down and pick it up :laughing7: i'm no CW expert but this question always baffled me. I can see in battle yeah but at a camp :icon_scratch:
Dave, I am no CW expert either but I do have a few theories:
1. They had no weedeaters or mowers back then and natural grasses were high in fields when new camps were established. The Union Soldiers (especially) had plenty of bullets so they did not bother looking for them in the grass in camps.
2. Many drops have minor CW period (not by disks or plows) imperfections and the soldiers may have discarded them because they felt like the accuracy of the projectile may be adversely affected.
3. In the case of this camp, it rained during the 12 days they camped there. Tenn. Digger let me borrow the diary and it rained there on Wed. Dec. 24, 1862 according to the soldier. As a result, about two thirds of the bullets we have recovered there to date have been pulled. Col. Wilder moved the soldiers to this site as he feared an attack from CSA cavalry and the new site was stategically advantagous. Fearing an attack, they naturally pulled the bullets and reloaded with fresh dry powder.
4. In some cases, the powder pre-packaged with the bullets may have gotten wet and the whole package was discarded leaving a perfect factory made bullet behind.
I'm sure there are more reasons but these come to mind Dave. HH, Quindy.
thanks Q all that makes sense.sorry to ask but was just curious.
 

Re: Hunting the Camp of the 72nd Ind. Inf., 74th Ind. Inf., & 105th Ohio Inf. Today

Looks like a pretty good day to me! I haven't had one that good in a while! Congrats!
 

Re: Hunting the Camp of the 72nd Ind. Inf., 74th Ind. Inf., & 105th Ohio Inf. Today

Great story :icon_thumleft:

Great History :icon_thumright:

Nice finds :icon_sunny:



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