I got a question about vegetarians

[Monty]

I remember the old cats and rats scheme from my police academy days 40 years ago. Once upon a time around the end of WWII some con men came up with the "Cat and Rats" con game. supposedly you would buy a pair of cats and a pair of rats. Since both reproduce rather quickly the idea was to raise cats for the fur to sell to the glove industry for linings for leather gloves. Soon you would have many cat pelts and the cats would eat the surplus rats. The rats would eat the discarded cat carcasses thus making a perpetual money making scheme with no overhead except for cages and water. Of course the con men promised to furnish the cages for a fee and buy the cat pelts and act as a middle man for the glove industry. The problem was, after you made your initial investment of a couple of hundred dollars (which was a lot of money back then) for animals and cages the guys would disappear and you would be left with a bunch of cats and rats with no way to get rid of them. The glove industry used rabbit fur for glove linings instead of cats. I think now they use fake fur for linings? Anyway the conmen got quite rich and I don't know if they ever got caught. As a side note, some southeast Asian countries consider cats a delicacy and you just might make a go of it selling cats to southeast Asian restaurants. If someone of that ilk moves into your neighborhood you won't have to worry about stray cats anymore. I've seen it happen. Man this is far afield from the original question and for that I apologize. M nty

 

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[Montana Jim]

I read The Jungle when I was a kid... :P

I didn't eat hot dogs for several years after that.

I eat 'em now though... because I have K-9s.

 

[gnewt]

Animals are fed better and treated better on the farms than in the wild, cattle men and farmers go for the healthy animals that grow. Now they don't invite them into their house and feed them at their table, because we don't eat the same stuff, They usually have shelter they did not build, and pens are kept cleaner than animals would keep it. Did anyone ever see a pig clean his sty. I don't know where the information came from that people that raised chickens were mistreating them. You spook chickens and they pile in one end of the house and kill each other.
Chickens cannot be put in the dump, every part of them is used. They are raised for a purpose, all the other animals that are raised for food are raised for a purpose, if you are a vegetarian, then its is obvious they are not raised for you.
Those animals belong to people who eat meat. You can have the rest, like sharks, bears, wolves, snakes, mtn Lions, skunks and lizards. You could have a goat, pig or
armadillo, even a chicken, they would make a pet. The others are meat eaters so be careful they like vegetarians or meat eaters. Good to know we got something that likes everybody. Gnewt

 

[godisnum1]

Why was my post deleted?

It's still up there? *confused look*

Bran <><

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HI: it was posted ---

There really aren't anymore cannibalistic tribes around
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Hehehe wanna bet? I have met them while exploring in the pacific basin, notably the Solomon Islands. While it is frowned upon, many people turn up missing every year.

They call it long pig, a favorite expresion is "you likem long Mary kai kai? Do you like a nice broiled gal"?

I have seen remains of feasts several times. - NO! I have never knowingly partaken even when invited, I claimed that a witch doctor had put a curse on me so that I couldn't enjoy the finer things of life, sniff, they understood and accepted this while feeling sorry for me.. They say it is indistinguishable from pork. and In the protein poor areas -------chomp chomp, if no piggies are available..

However you would er, ah, puke at some of the thing's that I have had to eat while exploring. If it swam. flew, crawled, walked, slithered, or whatever, it went into the pot. I have known what it is like to be truly hungry and on your own.

Hmm I wonder how Cappy would taste? He is well saturated with prebasted quality wine?

Join me Gypsy luv?

Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s. Regarding veg. vs Meat eaters, I doubt that animals worry too much about killing humanely for eating, on the contrary, they merely destroy the ability to move in general and proceed to eat the victim alive. Some of the cat family actually kill in general first, but even there, in a pride of lions, some will be tearing the tummy open while the animal is still alive. I. E. first come first serve.

Personally I abhor killing anything, even a plant, especially in an unnecessarily painful way. It is always with deep regret that I kill anything, but curiously enough, I don't feel the same about humans, perhaps it is because it is because under the circumstances, they are attempting to harm me?

p.p.s. for you vegitarians, check into plant responses and feelings while being torn up by the roots or simple torn apart, it has been proven that hey have definite feelings also. See below for example. They suffer also. Imagine being skinned alive, then thrown into a pot of boiling water sheeehs.

http://www.upei.ca/~xliu/multi-culture/bose.htm

 

[Kentucky Kache]

Why was my post deleted?

It's still up there? *confused look*

Bran <><

I was getting ready to delete it anyway, I just thought it had been already deleted and wondered why. *Don't look confused, there's always an explanation*

 

[SHERMANVILLE ILLINOIS]

 

[The Beep Goes On]

What RdT said...

http://www.dinnerwithacannibal.com

HH!
TBGO

 

[gnewt]

Dog is not a boy, he is a mans best friend, That is one animal I wouldn't eat unless I couldn't kill a carrot or cut up a sweet potato and skin him or dig the guts out of a watermelon. If my best friend was all the meat I had left I would become a temporary vegetarian. Gnewt

 

[Tubecity]

a side note, some southeast Asian countries consider cats a delicacy

It is sometimes the reason the ricefields are overrun with rats, in
some places in Viet Nam they call cat meat, 'Little Tiger'.
Anyone for some 'moo goo gai kitty'?

 

[godisnum1]

Well... down in Peru they served fried Guinea Pig.
That's right... little Johnny's pet here in the state got served with rice down there.
And they don't have salt, so I'm assuming it's pretty dry. lol

Bran <><

 

[gnewt]

How about them rice rats with fermented fish sauce with nasty duck feet soup.
How about some fish heads and fried rice. Any one for monkey brains? MMMMM
OOOPs gotta puke......Gnewt

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HEEHE I see that you really really haven't been hungry and on your own with no possibility of help. However, in normal times I agree, urp. I still balk at rotten fish, ducks / pheasants or even Baluts sigh .

Don Jose de La Mancha

P.s. I wonder how gyspy would be lightly broiled, sauteed with coconut oil?? Join me? snicker On second thought, I think that I prefer her alive, more useful, she could cook on my Yawl while heading bk to the Solomons. (she could aways serve as an emergency food supply if I became becalmed.. snicker )

 

[gnewt]

I wish it was so, that food was never a problem, we crashed in the arctic and I survived 13 days.
I was sent to Vietnam to live off the land in Combat Control. I was not given quarters or rations. I did eat stuff that would gag one of them condors. Gag me if I think about it... One of them long pigs sounds OK with wild rice, garlic and red pepper. You are right a woman would be better, the men would be like a boar hog. I tried the boar hog, ain't enough pepper to cure that taste. They even make tough sausage.

 

[jeff of pa]

vegetarians only eat meat when nobody is around.

 

[MD Dog]

People who are eating factory raised store bought meat now days or for that matter veggies too, are risking their lives. Consider the recent meat recall due to sick cows being forced into the hoppers of a factory food processing plant. These are our own people trying to kill us let alone the terrorists the Govt. wants to protect our food supply from. Feline I'm with you I am making the move to supplying all my own food. Were going to raise goats, chickens, fish, beef cattle, rabbits, turkeys and anything else I can think of. I also am setting aside three acres of land for a garden. Seems I have to retire now for real anyway so this will be my next project. I've already started to move forward with a off the grid setup and this seems to play right into that. And BTW I'm sure there are Biblical principles for how to put them down. The only verses I can think of was one That I think God told to Noah when he first told Noah that man would now have to eat meat to supply His dietary needs. God said don't tie the legs of the animal. And from what I learned in college the practice of the day was to chop off an animals leg and tie off the bleeding stub so the animal would live until the next day when they'd repeat the process. Until all four legs were used and then kill the animal. This to preserve the meat for as long as possible in a desert enviroment. I don't remember what God said to do for an alternative for meat preservation though. Guess I got some Bible studying to do.

 

[gnewt]

MD , Last year I had a great garden except for tomatoes, vines were 7 ft but I had very few fruit. I found out too late what the problem was. No bees, wasps or flys. I didn't spray either. If I had only took a broom or feather duster and did what the bees do I would have made a good crop. I found out it wasn't just mine they were having the same problem in Missouri. So I will sure pay attention this year. I had plenty of other vegs. fed lots of people around here. Oh, we didn't have any wind either. So I guess we gotta watch the polinators this year or use a feather duster.

 

[MD Dog]

Hmmm Maybe I should add some bee hives to the list. Thanks for the idea Gnewt. Thank you too FP.

 

[gnewt]

That reminds me of my kids and some neighbor kids were having hot dogs out back when my son came up on his horse, and got off. One of the kids came over and gave the horse a hot dog, well he liked the bun but he spit that dog ten feet, that was funny, but Lucky was a comedian horse. Out of five horses we had three that always went out of their way to make you laugh. If you own that Jack Ass give him a hotdog,
they got no sense of humor, just watch his feet. Gnewt

 

[E59]

I was looking into starting a colony of bees down by the river but my father-in-law said that it would be a waste of time because something is killing them off.
Is there a disease or some bug that is doing it? The earlier post about using a feather duster is kinda scary. There must be some truth to what he said.