ID Help Please

KYHeadHunter · Oct 13, 2008

I've looked in several artifact books, but I still have trouble figuring out exactly what I have a lot of the time. Hope you all can help. I'll tell you what I think each of them are and you can tell me how wrong I am. These were all found in SC Kentucky. Thanks

The first 2 pics look a little like some pics of quads that I've seen and a little like some pics of cumberlands. The 3rd and 4th pics are of a broken point that I thought looks a little like a clovis.
Pics 5,6, & 7 look to me like they might be Beaver Lake.
Pic 8 looks like quads.
Pic 9 looks like a Dalton
Pics 10 & 11 I'm not sure

Flintfinder · Oct 13, 2008

Is somebody gonna chime in?

pickaway · Oct 14, 2008

Cant help w/ ID but nice relics congrats...

mikez · Oct 14, 2008

Very interesting!
I found one of those balls made from the same material in north central Ma. Mine seems to be very rough in texture to be a grinder of any sort. Seems like it would show polish if it was used to grind or mill.
Some have told me it's a game ball.
One thing I do know, mine is man made. From the photos, your's looks man made as well. In fact, it looks alot like mine.

unitas · Oct 14, 2008

Can't help too much with Kentucky points. If you're having trouble with typology the best thing to do is visit with other collectors. By talking with other collectors in your area and handling other peoples finds you will learn as much as you need. I've learned more from local collectors and historians than I could ever hope to learn in a book. Good luck, Unitas

relix · Oct 14, 2008

I don't have my Overstreet handy, however I noticed a few of those points were what is referred to as 'Candy Creek'. Theres a very interesting story with this type. Many people believe that the Paleo people survived until around 2000 BC. This type is supposedly was influenced by these people, thus giving it the lanceolate shape. The flaking is definately archaic-woodland transition. The first point you have resembles the 'Quad' type, but the flaking isn't from the Paleo period. Were all of these points found at the same location?

KYHeadHunter · Oct 14, 2008

Thanks for the replies. Relix, yes all of these were found on my grandparents farm on the Cumberland River. We've found stuff from every time period there and I estimate around 3,000 artifacts have been picked up there. I do have one clovis that came from there and my uncle has some so I know there are paleo there. One of the books I use to try and identify with is the Overstreet, but to me some of the candy creek and beaver lake look a lot alike. I think maybe I need to learn the different flaking techniques and which periods each were used and that might help me to better identify.

gilmerman · Oct 14, 2008

They are all good quality flint.There are two sites that the older heads rec-comend that lets you use shape of points, Its a very helpful site.I've usedv it alot but right now I'm not at my pc, If someone sends it, it will help. I'll check with you tomorrow.

The Grim Reaper · Oct 15, 2008

Pics 1 through 4 I'm not sure.

Pics 5 and 6 looks like a Copena Point.

Pic 7 looks like Trimble Points.

Pics 8 and 9 I'm not sure.

Pics 10 and 11 look like Guilfords.

luckyinkentucky · Oct 15, 2008

The first point is a 'Generic' Archaic blade made from Dover Chert. I say generic, because it has no visible classifying features but it was used.

The second is a Candy Creek point made from either fossiliferous hornstone or Candy Creek chert. That statement in itself is kind of a contradiction, because Candy Creek is a rare Hornstone variant.

Being a modern Flint knapper pays off. :thumbsup: