ID question for bullet gurus

[azdirtdigger]

Found an older casing and an older cartridge on my hunt today. No value just a curiosity question. They are new to me.

Both are pretty beat up. Measurements as best as I can get them due to condition are:

casing is .87" tall, .57" wide with the base .64" wide.

The cartridge is 1.75" tall, .54" wide with the base .64" wide.

 

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[FloodcityTom]

54 Sharps, common after the civil war, still used by some cavalry in the old west and likely civilians

 

[azdirtdigger]

Think I identified both. I believe the small casing is a 50 Rem. Pistol and the larger cartridge is a .50-70 Government.
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[azdirtdigger]

54 Sharps, common after the civil war, still used by some cavalry in the old west and likely civilians

I can't find measurements for the brass casing for the 54 Sharps.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Azdirtdigger wrote:
> I can't find measurements for the brass casing for the 54 Sharps.

That is because no such thing exists. You've been misled.

I agree with the ID of the long cartridge as a .50-70 "Government Rifle" cartridge.

 

[pistol-pete]

Right on azdirtdigger and Cannonballguy. 50-70 inside primed. not sure of the short one. 50 pistol was a good guess.

 

[ColtsPop]

Agreed. I wish people would not use this forum to guess. Let’s all learn from the experts in their field. ^this guy is one of those guys....

 

[ColtsPop]

Azdirtdigger wrote:
> I can't find measurements for the brass casing for the 54 Sharps.

That is because no such thing exists. You've been misled.

I agree with the ID of the long cartridge as a .50-70 "Government Rifle" cartridge.

Agreed. I wish people would not use this forum to guess. Let’s all learn from the experts in their field. ^this guy is one of those guys....