“If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

“If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

“If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine, and it is in the Superstition Wilderness Area, they are """"breaking the law"""", and they are making lots of money while they are doing it. You interrupt them . . . and their main goal is going to be to """"keep you quiet!""""” ~Jim Hatt~

JIM HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY HERO! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS MAN! HE OBVIOUSLY IS PURE GENIUS! “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine, and it is in the Superstition Wilderness Area, they are ((((breaking the law)))), and they are making lots of money while they are doing it. ((((You interrupt them . . . and their main goal is going to be to keep you quiet!))))” ~Jim Hatt~

 

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[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

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[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

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[bigwater]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

I thought you already emphatically stated that you had found the mine, so shouldn't you know if somebody is working it?

 

[gollum]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

MR. MIX ENGINEER DO YOU HAVE A BATTERY POWERED DJ SETUP

Why? Do you want to have a party on the LDM Site?

Mike

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

Im SORRY MIKE I WAS REFFERING TO RANDY.

 

[Salvor6]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

Hello Santa Fe New Mexican and congratulations on your find. I took a look at the picture you posted and I was really impressed. You REALLY DID find the LDM alright!
You said; "I see no claims here now at the present other than mine." Thats becaues you have not looked back far enough in the LDM forum archives. There is someone that claims to have absolute proof that he found the LDM every year. The last one was Twisted Fork and he posted positive proof. The one before him was blindbowman and I think HE really found it because he got the gold and no one has heard from him in the last year. There are about 14 others.
Anyway I wish you the best of luck and I guess you will be moving into Donald Trump's old house on Palm Beach next week, right?
Joe, please don't threaten SFNM anymore or else I'm going to report you to the mods and have you banned for life!

 

[cactusjumper]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

Salvor,

"Joe, please don't threaten SFNM anymore or else I'm going to report you to the mods and have you banned for life!"

Well......I haven't, but if that would mean I would never have to see any of this craziness again, I may make the effort. Can't imagine why Jeff hasn't stepped in and wiped this nonsense off the site.

Take care,

Joe

 

[Oroblanco]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

“If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine, and it is in the Superstition Wilderness Area, they are """"breaking the law"""", and they are making lots of money while they are doing it. You interrupt them . . . and their main goal is going to be to """"keep you quiet!""""” ~Jim Hatt~

JIM HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY HERO! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS MAN! HE OBVIOUSLY IS PURE GENIUS! “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine, and it is in the Superstition Wilderness Area, they are ((((breaking the law)))), and they are making lots of money while they are doing it. ((((You interrupt them . . . and their main goal is going to be to keep you quiet!))))” ~Jim Hatt~

That is quite a statement if you think about it. Of course that is IF someone is secretly working the mine and it happens to be inside the wilderness area, and that the persons doing the work do not have the necessary permits. It may be possible, with loads of red tape of course, to get the necessary permits IF someone has located the old Lost Dutchman mine and wished to extract some of the gold. I have never found it so haven't tracked down what steps would be necessary, but I do think it is POSSIBLE to get the permits needed.

This reminds me of the Adolph Ruth case; lots of people are convinced he actually found the LDM and was killed for it, but we still to this day do not KNOW if he did find it, nor if he was killed or simply committed suicide.

It is something to think about, for sure.
Oroblanco

 

[cactusjumper]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

Roy,

You left out died of natural causes......

Take care,

Joe

 

[gollum]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

Roy,

You left out died of natural causes......

Take care,

Joe

Like Gassler

Mike

 

[Peerless67]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

Joe, "Can't imagine why Jeff hasn't stepped in and wiped this nonsense off the site."

After sifting through more than half a dozen threads (very disjointed ones at that) created by SFNM, I must admit to having had the same boggle.


Gary

 

[cactusjumper]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

S.F.,

I decided to check back in on you and see how you are doing. I have thought about it, and believe you should keep posting. Please continue.

Joe

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

THANKYOU JOE ILL ACCEPT THAT AS AN APOLOGY!

 

[cactusjumper]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

Mike,

Yes, Walt Gassler died of natural causes. There is little doubt of that.

Take care,

Joe

 

[Oroblanco]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

THINK ABOUT IT YOU GENIUS

Santa Fe NM - what do you think about it? If someone accidently happened on a person AT the LDM, would it necessarily mean 'death' as the only solution? What about the possibility of taking that accidental discoverer in as a new 'partner' - after all two could mine more efficiently than one right? I would appreciate your views on this scenario, thank you in advance,
Roy

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

I Agree! If i was an outlaw miner with a conchance! And im sure they are out there. Ofcourse ive never been a miner ever, though i have done some panning.

 

[Oroblanco]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

I Agree! If i was an outlaw miner with a conchance! And im sure they are out there.

WOW - hold on amigo, are you saying there are outlaw miners there, secretly working the LDM? Thank you in advance,
Roy

 

[cactusjumper]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

S.F.,

If someone is working the LDM, and you think they could be dangerous, do you think Jesse Capen could have found that location and suffered the consequenses?

If that's the case, and you have pinpointed the LDM location, do you think he might be found when all the people who will show up at your gathering are exploring around the site?

Thanks in advance,

Joe Ribaudo

 

[gollum]

Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"

S.F.,

If someone is working the LDM, and you think they could be dangerous, do you think Jesse Capen could have found that location and suffered the consequenses?

If that's the case, and you have pinpointed the LDM location, do you think he might be found when all the people who will show up at your gathering are exploring around the site?

Thanks in advance,

Joe Ribaudo

After all,

He was searching the exact same area where you located the LDM. Maybe your party could also stumble across him.

Best-Mike