J. Hall Grain Dealer Troy, O. 1868

[Keith (Indiana)]

So far I haven't been able to locate any information on this one. Can you help? The size is the same as an Indian Head Cent.

I found it a couple of weeks ago in a "glory hole" with 4 other coins at an 1875 farmstead in Indiana!

Thanks in advance!

 

[PBK]

It's a Civil War "store card" (merchant's token, typically traded as a cent), and is the variety listed as #OH880A in U.S. Civil War Store Cards by George & Melvin Fuld. Some price guides list it around $35-50 in F-VF condition; others put the value quite a bit higher, as there is disagreement about its rarity. There's one on eBay right now that you might want to keep track of:

ttp://cgi.ebay.com/Troy-Ohio-Railroad-Warehouse-880A-1a-NICE-AU-NR_W0QQitemZ150043320130

 

[idahotokens]

Hi, Keith--

Great find! This is a Civil War storecard as PBK noted - the date on it is actually 1863.

John in ID

 

[PBK]

Hi, Keith--

Great find! This is a Civil War storecard as PBK noted - the date on it is actually 1863.

John in ID

Hey, John—

Check out the bright spots where the token has been cleaned. I'm thinking this might be the R9 C-N variety; and if so, much more valuable than the copper one.

 

[daytondigger]

Nice find,comes from my area right up the Highway, I'm diginit, congratulations.

 

[Keith (Indiana)]

Hi, Keith--

Great find! This is a Civil War storecard as PBK noted - the date on it is actually 1863.

John in ID

WOW Thanks a lot guys! I thought is was an 1863 until I got it home and then thought it was an 1868. Should I clean the crud off of it? Here's the 1862 Fatty that was in the hole with it after I cleaned it with a few hot peroxide baths and a wet wood toothpick. It was even more crusted than the token is. This is the best fatty I have dug in 32 years of detecting....................

I still need to clean the 62 & 65. They are both HIGH grade. The 1854 half dime didn't need any cleaning.................

 

[idahotokens]

In my opinion, one of the beauties of collecting tokens is the relative lack of fussiness regarding cleaning, compared to coins. Most coin collectors wiould never dream of cleaning a coin and a lot of the grading services won't touch a cleaned coin. But with tokens, and perhaps it is a matter of necessity, cleaning is perfectly okay with most collectors. Of course I have seen tokens that were ruined by cleaning - being left in CLR too long, for instance - but I've seen many more that were made legible by cleaning. And, as I have contended for years, usually with tokens you can't just run down to the corner coin shop and replace your dog with a nice example, so ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

PBK may have a good point with the metal variety.

John in ID

 

[Keith (Indiana)]

So far I haven't been able to locate any information on this one. Can you help? The size is the same as an Indian Head Cent.

I found it a couple of weeks ago in a "glory hole" with 4 other coins at an 1875 farmstead in Indiana!

Thanks in advance!

Is it normal for these to have rotated dies? This one is almost 45% rotated! Not shown in the picture.

 

[PBK]

Rotation errors are considered "minor" errors by most Civil War tokens collectors. Other minor errors include things such as off-center strikes, broad strikes, double strikes, and cuds. Examples of major errors would be blank reverses, brockages, overstrikes, and flipped strikes. Quite a few rotation-error CWT's turn up on eBay, so you might want to check "Completed Items" there. However, for more information probably your best bet would be to visit the Civil War Token Society website and message board:

http://www.cwtsociety.com/

 

[Keith (Indiana)]

Rotation errors are considered "minor" errors by most Civil War tokens collectors. Other minor errors include things such as off-center strikes, broad strikes, double strikes, and cuds. Examples of major errors would be blank reverses, brockages, overstrikes, and flipped strikes. Quite a few rotation-error CWT's turn up on eBay, so you might want to check "Completed Items" there. However, for more information probably your best bet would be to visit the Civil War Token Society website and message board:

http://www.cwtsociety.com/

Thanks PBK. I bookmarked the site.