Karl Steinheimers gold in central Texas

[Chris Whewell]

Karl Steinheimer's gold in central Texas

I don't think it has been found yet. Anyone have any info on this ?
Thanks,

 

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[Chris Whewell]

Re: Karl Steinheimer's gold in central Texas

Steinheimer was a pirate, who took to gold mining in Mexico in the 1830's. Fell in love with a lady from St. Louis and tried to make his way overland from Matamoros to St. Louis, riding with Manuel Flores' band for protection in May 1839. Flores was a counter-revolutionary, working with Cordova based out of Nacogdoches. Texian James Rice's party spotted Flores at Onion Creek south of Austin and gave chase. When William Wallace shot Flores near eithe Brush Creek or the San Gabriel, Steinheimer, his 20 mules of goldand his two men were not among them. Steinheimer's party buried the loot, then was attacked by Tonkowans and lost his two men and was wounded himself. He retrieved the gold he had paid them that they were carrying, and buried it atop a hill. He went south to the Colorado and met travelers going to the gulf with the hopes of making New Orleans, then up to St. Louis to meet his sweetie, then return to Texas to get the hidden loot. He never made it to St. Louis but mailed the map to Miss Savoy, who sent her relatives to get the loot but they couldn't find it. It may be still out there, and if so, I've got two candidate locations but hate to go it alone because roughing it alone in the brush ain't a real good idea. Plus, the pirate's loot would have to be pirated. Arrrrgh, non'll be the wiser or pained for losing what they didn't know they had, now would they ?

 

[Jeffro]

Re: Karl Steinheimer's gold in central Texas

Everything you ever needed to know, LOL!

Bancroft, Hubert Howe, History of the north Mexican states and Texas, history Co., San Francisco, Vol. II, 1883

Bertillion, L.D., "Steinheimer's Millions", in Legends of Texas, Folk-lore society, Austin, 1924

Black, Jack, Steinheimer's Millions, in Western Treasures Notebook of Lost Mines and Buried Treasures, Ames publishing, Tarzana CA, 1966, p.78

Coffman, F.L., 1001 lost, buried, or sunken Treasures, Thomas Nelson and sons, Camden, NJ 1957

Dobie, J. Frank, Steinheimer's Millions, in Coronado's Children, southwestern Press, Dallas TX, 1930

Engle, Fletcher, Texas Fortune, Western Treasures Vol I, No. I Summer 1963 Ames publishing, Tarzana CA pp76-78

McAllister, R.W. Karl Steinheimers Millions, Lost mines of California and the southwest, Thomas Bros., LA, 1953

Roberts, Bill, Steinheimers missing millions, Treasure world, vol 5, no 7 june/july 1971, Treasure world publishing Co., Conroe TX pp 24-27


And Penfield has references in several of his books.

 

[paleochild]

I want to go Look for it..

Steinheimer was a pirate, who took to gold mining in Mexico in the 1830's. Fell in love with a lady from St. Louis and tried to make his way overland from Matamoros to St. Louis, riding with Manuel Flores' band for protection in May 1839. Flores was a counter-revolutionary, working with Cordova based out of Nacogdoches. Texian James Rice's party spotted Flores at Onion Creek south of Austin and gave chase. When William Wallace shot Flores near eithe Brush Creek or the San Gabriel, Steinheimer, his 20 mules of goldand his two men were not among them. Steinheimer's party buried the loot, then was attacked by Tonkowans and lost his two men and was wounded himself. He retrieved the gold he had paid them that they were carrying, and buried it atop a hill. He went south to the Colorado and met travelers going to the gulf with the hopes of making New Orleans, then up to St. Louis to meet his sweetie, then return to Texas to get the hidden loot. He never made it to St. Louis but mailed the map to Miss Savoy, who sent her relatives to get the loot but they couldn't find it. It may be still out there, and if so, I've got two candidate locations but hate to go it alone because roughing it alone in the brush ain't a real good idea. Plus, the pirate's loot would have to be pirated. Arrrrgh, non'll be the wiser or pained for losing what they didn't know they had, now would they ?

I will go with you..

 

[pyledriver]

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[GaBnn3]

Hi all. I read a different account, authored by a source which I believe from past experience to be reliable. His account indicates that Steinheimer had separated from Flores at the first sign of trouble. He then had an uneventful journey until spotting hostiles in the distance. He then buried his gold, to ride light and fast, with the intent of returning with a larger party. He never made it. Irma recieved the map and solicited a partner to recover the treasure. Before embarking on a recovery effort, the partner researched Steinheimer and concluded the story and map were genuine. They never found it. As far a stories go, Steinheimer was a documented historical figure. I'm under the impression that his treasure is still out there for the guy who can solve it.

 

[bob zel]

Back in the late 70's I was at said location ,there was a brass spike in an Oak tree .A farmer who brought me to location said some young guys also from Chicago found this treasure a little while back.I returned home. Spike could have been put there by someone other then Karl himself.

 

[GaBnn3]

Hi Bob. Say, can you recall the location of that spike. I've been doing some research and if that location is where I'm looking, I won't waste any more effort. Thanks.

 

[Interestedin$]

I believe that this steinheimer guy buried his treasure in a part of central Texas that back then existed but no longer is visible per say on a current map ... However signs terrain and even that guy feeling I may be right and this is why it hasn't been found ... Because it disappeared with the rise of a local lake . And if infact my gut feeling is right I don't have the knowledge or experience to infact embark on this journey 8 miles roughly from sight I live and all the info grmathered from all the stories I've read point to my location . I just wish I knew more and had someone who could help me

 

[ThatOneDigger]

I believe that this steinheimer guy buried his treasure in a part of central Texas that back then existed but no longer is visible per say on a current map ... However signs terrain and even that guy feeling I may be right and this is why it hasn't been found ... Because it disappeared with the rise of a local lake . And if infact my gut feeling is right I don't have the knowledge or experience to infact embark on this journey 8 miles roughly from sight I live and all the info grmathered from all the stories I've read point to my location . I just wish I knew more and had someone who could help me

The location isn't underwater. I know exactly where the main gold location is buried. The 2nd location was a small pile of gold that was buried shallow on a hill before he was killed.

 

[Interestedin$]

The location isn't underwater. I know exactly where the main gold location is buried. The 2nd location was a small pile of gold that was buried shallow on a hill before he was killed.

Would you care to share a gensrrl location . According to coordinates I found pertaining to it I'd like to see just how close I truly am to it . I'd like to maybe speak with you if your interested in going for it or have you already laid eyes on it

 

[ThatOneDigger]

Would you care to share a gensrrl location . According to coordinates I found pertaining to it I'd like to see just how close I truly am to it . I'd like to maybe speak with you if your interested in going for it or have you already laid eyes on iti

Would you care to share a gensrrl location . According to coordinates I found pertaining to it I'd like to see just how close I truly am to it . I'd like to maybe speak with you if your interested in going for it or have you already laid eyes on it

We would need access to a Xtre

Would you care to share a gensrrl location . According to coordinates I found pertaining to it I'd like to see just how close I truly am to it . I'd like to maybe speak with you if your interested in going for it or have you already laid eyes on it

I haven't laid eyes on it because the location is on private property, still if we do get permission we would need a Deus Xtreme Hunter metal detector that reads up to 18ft deep. I assume the treasurer is buried 4-7ft. My Minelab manticore wouldn't hit it at that depth. If you still want coordinates I can provide with pictures when I get to my computer. The smaller treasure was a small pouch of gold dust or coins so a metal detector should hit that no problem. Just need the Xtreme Hunter to discriminate everything 1-2 foot above ground.

 

[Interestedin$]

We would need access to a Xtre

I haven't laid eyes on it because the location is on private property, still if we do get permission we would need a Deus Xtreme Hunter metal detector that reads up to 18ft deep. I assume the treasurer is buried 4-7ft. My Minelab manticore wouldn't hit it at that depth. If you still want coordinates I can provide with pictures when I get to my computer. The smaller treasure was a small pouch of gold dust or coins so a metal detector should hit that no problem. Just need the Xtreme Hunter to discriminate everything 1-2 foot above ground.

Ok I can get a really good detector and premission is easier for a woman to get most often ... I happen to to have that covered . Tooreal12783@gmail.com you can reach me there to make this a little more private

 

[Interestedin$]

Ok I can get a really good detector and premission is easier for a woman to get most often ... I happen to to have that covered . Tooreal12783@gmail.com you can reach me there to make this a little more private

Btw I would love photos to check out . In regards to the James treasure .... How far from there would you say the steinheimer might be

 

[ThatOneDigger]

Btw I would love photos to check out . In regards to the James treasure .... How far from there would you say the steinheimer might be

It would have to be a XP Deus Xtrem Hunter. It has to be a deep seeking metal detector. 10 mules of gold and silver would have to be buried at least 4-8ft deep. I can email you with the location.

 

[McKinney_5900]

It would have to be a XP Deus Xtrem Hunter. It has to be a deep seeking metal detector. 10 mules of gold and silver would have to be buried at least 4-8ft deep. I can email you with the location.

How in the world did someone, under attack by Indians, dig a 4-8ft hole?

 

[Interestedin$]

It would have to be a XP Deus Xtrem Hunter. It has to be a deep seeking metal detector. 10 mules of gold and silver would have to be buried at least 4-8ft deep. I can email you with the location.

I'll be looking for the email

 

[ThatOneDigger]

How in the world did someone, under attack by Indians, dig a 4-8ft hole?

Karl plus 2 men= 3 people shouldn't be hard plus they had all night and day before they left in a Southeast direction.