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ANTIQUARIAN

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XP Deus, Lesche Piranha 35 Shovel & 'Garrett Carrot'
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Relic Hunting
This home site was situated opposite the old Empire Woolen Mills, which ceased operations in 1887. I hunted this site over two days this past weekend.

As the largest mill in the region, Empire utilized the Oshawa Creek for its power. Established in 1835 by George Mathewson and Robert Ratcliffe, it was sold to the Empire Mills Company in 1850. The enterprise employed as many as 50 workers, many recruited from Lancashire and Yorkshire in England, who resided in boarding houses or small cottages. The presence of the mill led to the formation of a distinct community known as Empire Mills. At its peak, the area featured a church, store, school, and wooden sidewalks. By 1883, the community had implemented an electrical lighting system powered by the mill dam, possibly the first of its kind locally. The mill itself was four stories tall. In 1860, a severe fire resulted in the complete destruction of its buildings, with losses estimated at $20,000.

The business relocated in 1887 following the construction of a major railway near Markham ON. Subsequently, a flood in 1890 destroyed the mill’s dam, leading to the abandonment of the village of Empire Mills. The sole remaining structure, St. Paul’s Anglican Church, was unfortunately lost to fire in the early 1920s. Included are before-and-after photographs of the coins discovered at the site. The iron ‘wishbone’ relic remains unidentified, and any information regarding its origin would be appreciated.

Thank you for your consideration,
Dave
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This home site was situated opposite the old Empire Woolen Mills, which ceased operations in 1887. I hunted this site over two days this past weekend.

As the largest mill in the region, Empire utilized the Oshawa Creek for its power. Established in 1835 by George Mathewson and Robert Ratcliffe, it was sold to the Empire Mills Company in 1850. The enterprise employed as many as 50 workers, many recruited from Lancashire and Yorkshire in England, who resided in boarding houses or small cottages. The presence of the mill led to the formation of a distinct community known as Empire Mills. At its peak, the area featured a church, store, school, and wooden sidewalks. By 1883, the community had implemented an electrical lighting system powered by the mill dam, possibly the first of its kind locally. The mill itself was four stories tall. In 1860, a severe fire resulted in the complete destruction of its buildings, with losses estimated at $20,000.

The business relocated in 1887 following the construction of a major railway near Markham ON. Subsequently, a flood in 1890 destroyed the mill’s dam, leading to the abandonment of the village of Empire Mills. The sole remaining structure, St. Paul’s Anglican Church, was unfortunately lost to fire in the early 1920s. Included are before-and-after photographs of the coins discovered at the site. The iron ‘wishbone’ relic remains unidentified, and any information regarding its origin would be appreciated.

Thank you for your consideration,
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Great write up! Congratulations on your adventure.
 
Impressive finds and write-up. Congratulations! The wishbone reminds me of a retaining clip. I just can´t think of what for way back then.

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Great research and finds.
Don in SoCal
Thanks very much Don. :wave:

Great articals and follow up resarch .
Thank you russau, I appreciate your kind words.

Impressive finds and write-up. Congratulations! The wishbone reminds me of a retaining clip. I just can´t think of what for way back then.
Thanks for the suggestions Gene. At first I thought it might be a Jew's Harp, but a don't think so now. :icon_scratch:
 
Congrats on the FANTASTIC finds ! :hello2:
Thank you my friend, I appreciate it!

Voting Banner on your beautiful coin recovery!!
Thank you for the excellent post
And thank you for sharing
Thanks very much Bill, but I sincerely doubt these crusty old 'Dragon Slayer' Halfpennies are BANNER finds. :laughing7:
Hope you're doing well these days,
Dave

Lots of sweet finds there Dave, especially those bank tokens, congrats!

p.s. Your avatar looks a bit over-exposed. :laughing7:
Thanks for your post bud.
The only thing that's over-exposed these days is my butt crack when I bend over to recover a find. 🤣
 
Oh wow! Thats a great site! Youll be finding stuff there for years to come. I found one of those bank of upper canada tokens down here on long island in new york over the winter. Its a 1854. Good stuff, looking forward to seeing more cool stuff from up north.
 
I enjoyed your informative writeup and excellent pictures. Abandoned settlements like this are a detectorist's paradise! I wonder whether the iron horseshoe is a magnet?
The tokens are very nice. The spoon looks like it is for dispensing something, like medicine or a chemical such as a dye.
 
Thank you my friend, I appreciate it!


Thanks very much Bill, but I sincerely doubt these crusty old 'Dragon Slayer' Halfpennies are BANNER finds. :laughing7:
Hope you're doing well these days,
Dave


Thanks for your post bud.
The only thing that's over-exposed these days is my butt crack when I bend over to recover a find. 🤣
For some reason your avatar was just a white square when I read your post :dontknow:
But don't change it to the one you described or the moderators might have work to do! 😜
 
Congrats on those coin and relic finds. I like those bank tokens.
Thanks for your post Trezurehunter, great to hear from you.
Dave

Oh wow! Thats a great site! Youll be finding stuff there for years to come. I found one of those bank of upper canada tokens down here on long island in new york over the winter. Its a 1854. Good stuff, looking forward to seeing more cool stuff from up north.
Yup, these tokens have been found all over over the US and Canada my friend. I also find a lot of old US coins here, the Dominion of Canada didn't issue its own decimal coinage until 1870. In 1850, the Bank of Upper Canada received the right to issue a coinage due to a severe coin shortage. The coinage consisted of Half Penny and One Penny Bank Tokens. The obverse of the coins carried a representation of St. George slaying the dragon based on Benedetto Pistrucci's gold sovereign coinage design. The reverse of the coins carried the then obsolete Coat-of-Arms of Upper Canada. The 1850 issue was struck at the Royal Mint, London, but the coins did not arrive in Canada until 1851. In 1857, Heaton's Mint were asked to strike this final coinage. The reason this was the final coinage was because the introduction of a decimal currency into Canada was being contemplated. Thanks for your post and good luck to you! :thumbsup:

I enjoyed your informative writeup and excellent pictures. Abandoned settlements like this are a detectorist's paradise! I wonder whether the iron horseshoe is a magnet?
The tokens are very nice. The spoon looks like it is for dispensing something, like medicine or a chemical such as a dye.
Thanks for your post and for sharing your theory about the spoon I found Almy. Stylistically, it appears to date from the 1860s, but I've never found an early aluminum spoon like this one before. My first thought was that it was likely part of an early tea spoon set. It didn't register high like modern aluminum does, this was in the low 70s which is probably why I dug it. Thankfully there was no modern trash here, so hearing the good tones was relatively easy.

For some reason your avatar was just a white square when I read your post :dontknow:
But don't change it to the one you described or the moderators might have work to do! 😜
I hear you my friend, trust me when I say that I won't be showing anyone my pencil holder anytime soon. :laughing9:
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This home site was situated opposite the old Empire Woolen Mills, which ceased operations in 1887. I hunted this site over two days this past weekend.

As the largest mill in the region, Empire utilized the Oshawa Creek for its power. Established in 1835 by George Mathewson and Robert Ratcliffe, it was sold to the Empire Mills Company in 1850. The enterprise employed as many as 50 workers, many recruited from Lancashire and Yorkshire in England, who resided in boarding houses or small cottages. The presence of the mill led to the formation of a distinct community known as Empire Mills. At its peak, the area featured a church, store, school, and wooden sidewalks. By 1883, the community had implemented an electrical lighting system powered by the mill dam, possibly the first of its kind locally. The mill itself was four stories tall. In 1860, a severe fire resulted in the complete destruction of its buildings, with losses estimated at $20,000.

The business relocated in 1887 following the construction of a major railway near Markham ON. Subsequently, a flood in 1890 destroyed the mill’s dam, leading to the abandonment of the village of Empire Mills. The sole remaining structure, St. Paul’s Anglican Church, was unfortunately lost to fire in the early 1920s. Included are before-and-after photographs of the coins discovered at the site. The iron ‘wishbone’ relic remains unidentified, and any information regarding its origin would be appreciated.

Thank you for your consideration,
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A most excellent post Antiquarian! Thanks for the story that goes along with all your finds. What a nice history lesson. Congrats on all your recoveries. You did very, very well.
 
Thank you my friend, I appreciate it!


Thanks very much Bill, but I sincerely doubt these crusty old 'Dragon Slayer' Halfpennies are BANNER finds. :laughing7:
Hope you're doing well these days,
Dave

Thanks Dave I’m doing good and hope all is well with you also.
Great post my friend!!!

Thanks for your post bud.
The only thing that's over-exposed these days is my butt crack when I bend over to recover a find. 🤣
 
A most excellent post Antiquarian! Thanks for the story that goes along with all your finds. What a nice history lesson. Congrats on all your recoveries. You did very, very well.
Thank you for your kind words and for your post Silvermonkey, I apologize for taking so long to respond.
Best of luck to you, Dave
Great post my friend!!!
Thanks Bill! :occasion14:
WOW!! thats:notworthy: what you call detecting!
Thanks bud, I appreciate you posting. :thumbsup:
 

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