Map of East Florida Coast w/ Lease Areas??

ScubaFinder · Oct 13, 2006

Does a map of the East coast of Florida exist that already has the currently held lease areas marked on it? I tried to punch the GPS coordinates of the Fisher leases into Google Earth but it seems to be quite a bit off. Some of the lease areas show to be centered over intercoastal waters or over land. I'm thinking this can't be right...can it? If it's not right, does anyone have a map that shows the areas (not looking for exact coords, just a general idea of what areas are leased and which parts are not.

Thanks,

Jason

deepsix47 · Oct 13, 2006

ScubaSeeker said:
Does a map of the East coast of Florida exist that already has the currently held lease areas marked on it? I tried to punch the GPS coordinates of the Fisher leases into Google Earth but it seems to be quite a bit off. Some of the lease areas show to be centered over intercoastal waters or over land. I'm thinking this can't be right...can it? If it's not right, does anyone have a map that shows the areas (not looking for exact coords, just a general area of what areas are leased and which parts are not.

Thanks,

Jason

There is (or was) a pamphlet available in the 90's that showed the locations of the Fisher leases along the Treasure Coast. I believe it could be obtained from Mel's Museum in Sebastian. I don't remember any of them extending into the intercoastal but some did go up onto the beaches. Since the beaches are not private here in Florida, the mean low water mark had to be used as a defining line. When a "pinpoint" lease is obtained, the dimensions of that lease are set from a center point, many times over the main ballast pile. As the ballast piles are located on the reefs close to shore, some of the lines could extend onto the beach.

Also, once a lease has been obtained it is a matter of public record and you can get the info in Tallahassee. It is worthy of note that with winter approaching we will be getting some heavy minus tides. Watch the tide tables, you will be able to get further out and into areas not normally available to be worked.

Have a good one.
Deepsix

rgecy · Oct 13, 2006

I have a map showing the current fisher lease areas and all the coordinates. I will try to post it when I get home. Wreckdiver posted the coordinates and centerpoints last year or year before. You should be able to find it with a little searching.

Robert in SC

wreckdiver1715 · Oct 13, 2006

You can find it in the Legal Issues Forum, in "Florida"

or I can just do a little cut and paste for ya...

Now these are only the Fisher leases, and there are others. However, I don't have them at this time. RioBravo said he may have the other current leases, so we might be able to entice him to add them for us.

BENT ANCHOR S32G 27.55.7N X 80.29.12W; East to 27.55.7N X 80.28.57W; South-southeast to 27.53.28N X 80.27.24W; West to 27.53.28N X 80.27.68W; then follow the mean low tide line to point of beginning.
CABIN WRECK S27 27.49.8N X 80.25.55W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of mean low tide line.
DOUGLAS BEACH S26 27.25.3N X 80.16.50W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
POWER PLANT S25 27.21.2N X 80.13.65W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
ANCHOR WRECK S23 27.48.2N X 80.24.70W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
SPRING OF WHITBY S23 27.46.0N X 80.23.83W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
RIO MAR S23 27.38.3N X 80.20.90W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
SANDY POINT S23 27.35.8N X 80.19.65W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
UNKNOWN S23 27.19.0N X 80.12.30W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
CORRIGANS WRECK S25 27.46.2N X 80.22.67W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.

ScubaFinder · Oct 13, 2006

Thanks gentlemen. I had Wreckdivers coordinates, those are the numbers i plugged into Google Earth...many of them state to draw a line up the mean low tide line, but those coords are in inland water ways and such. I had heard that Google Earth was less than accurate for pinpointing, I guess that rumor is true. I hate that, because being a computer nerd, I;ve been plotting every tidbit of info I can find into Google Earth, and it looks like most of my current data will not line up with the actual shore and reef lines at all

I've converted my KMD files to work with NASA WorldWind, and it looks to be much closer to accurate. I'm really just looking at known ballast piles, following debris trails, and trying to get a general "lay of the land" before I move out there early next year. If Robert posts his map this evening I think it will be good enough to get me started, thanks Robert. And thanks for the insights as well.

Jason

ScubaFinder · Oct 13, 2006

Watch the tide tables, you will be able to get further out and into areas not normally available to be worked.

OK, this intrigues me to ask yet another question. When the tides are way minus, and you get some new area to be worked, what can you get away with as far as defacing the beach. I'm not talking about heavy equipment, but it seems that most targets would likely be on the hard bottom under the sand. I realize this is a bit silly, it would be really tough to get a hole dug quickly enough, and water would be backfilling it the whole time, but could you dig an 8 foot deep hole on the beach without getting harrassed by the law?

Jason

riobravo · Oct 13, 2006

hi jason,
i have charts showing the locations of most working sites, tried to find the link to a web site, ill keep looking i havent plotted all of the #s WD posted but a couple seem correct.
trying to post a pic of an older chart available from the state

Dirt Fishin Dale · Oct 13, 2006

Jason
My 7 year old digs deep holes all the time. I will bring him out.

Looking foward to seeing that map of lease areas.
Dale

riobravo · Oct 13, 2006

some more pics.

riobravo · Oct 13, 2006

ill get this down one day,

riobravo · Oct 13, 2006

todays not the day...........

Dirt Fishin Dale · Oct 13, 2006

Thanks Rio!
You D man..

ScubaDude · Oct 13, 2006

Will these help

Some are a rehash of the above, but this is some additional info.

ABBR SITE DATE LEASE AREA LATITUDE LONGITUDE
CAB CABIN 1715 8IR23/S27 27°49.800' 80°25.549'
ANC ANCHOR WRECK 1715 8IR46/S23 27°48.199' 80°24.699'
CAN CANNON WRECK 1715+ 8IR438/S23 *SEE BELOW *SEE BELOW
ROB ROBERT 1821 8IR47/S23 *SEE BELOW *SEE BELOW
SPR SPRING OF WHITBY 1824 8IR28/S23 27°45.999' 80°23.629'
GCB GREEN CABIN WRECK 1618 8IR22/S23 *SEE BELOW *SEE BELOW
COR CORRIGANS WRECK 1715 8IR19/S25 27°43.800' 80°22.799'
RIO RIO MAR WRECK 1715 8IR27/S23 27°36.300' 80°20.899'
SPT SANDY POINT WRECK 1715 8IR20/S23 27°35.599' 80°19.650'
DGB DOUGLAS BEACH 1715 8SL17/S26 27°25.299' 80°16.500'
POW POWER PLANT WRECK UNK S25 27°21.199' 80°13.650'
UNK UNKNOWN WRECK UNK S23 27°18.999' 80°12.300'

ABBR SITE DATE LEASE AREA
NORTH LATITUDE BOUNDARY SOUTH LATITUDE BOUNDARY CENTERPOINT
CAN CANNON WRECK 1715+ 8IR438/S23 27º48.202' 27º47.451' USE ANC
ROB ROBERT 1821 8IR47/S23 27º47.451' 27º46.708' USE ANC
GCB GREEN CABIN WRECK 1618 8IR22/S23 27º45.280' 27º44.247' USE COR

RECTANGULAR CONTRACT AREAS
ABBR SITE DATE LEASE AREA NORTH BOUNDARY SOUTH BOUNDARY
E89 EXPLORATION-89 UNK E89 28°02.209' X 80°31.899' 27°55.699' X 80°28.569'
S32 S32 1715 S32 27°55.699' X 80°28.569' 27°53.280' X 80°27.240'

Brad

Peg Leg · Oct 14, 2006

Does anyone have any information concerning wrecks in the Gulf? I know that there is not much interest in this Gulf region but I sure am.
Thanks
Peg Leg

riobravo · Oct 14, 2006

hi peg,
i am awaiting some up dated info, there, to my knowledge, no active permits in the northwestern coast of florida, two companys that i know besides your self, have been investigating that area, with varying reports but no action started( permit apps, admiralty,...).

ScubaFinder · Oct 14, 2006

Thanks Rio! I think I got what I needed from your pics. Google Earth is definitely "a little off" when it comes to GPS coordinates. I've got it pretty well lined out now though..thanks!

Jason

wreckdiver1715 · Oct 15, 2006

Jason, I use software from Garmin "GPS MAPS OF THE WORLD", and can upload and download my GPS to my laptop with a USB cable. Additionally, most all of these coordinates provided by me are using the map datum WGS84.

Tom

ScubaFinder · Oct 15, 2006

Thank you Tom! I'm wondering why I didn't think of this, but I went out to the truck and got my Garmin GPS out, punched in the numbers, and low and behold they were right where they should be

I'm a little slow sometimes. I need to pick up the USB cable for mine, and will look into the software as well now...thanks!

Jason

riobravo · Jan 12, 2007

look in this thread peg

Jimi D Pirate · Jan 12, 2007

Call Taffi or email her and request a sea-pac. She can send it by email or perhaps mail you a disc.This should help you at least with their areas. This is what the potential subs get. Paid subs for the year get more info for these areas

http://www.imacdigest.com/2001rep/001.htmls