Marijuana in the Park

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Most recently, one of our own favored Tnet members returned from a very nice trip through her favorite parts of NE California and NW Nevada with glorious tales and excellent pictures to share with us.
Included in the post was mention of MANY large areas that were closed to US, the public, for all practical purposes.
Travel by foot or horseback, only, mandated through the wisdom of our government.

It occurs to me, the scenario presented by AP below may not exist to such an extent if WE the People were allowed to make full use of OUR land! At least under the 1872 Mining laws...

Mexican Marijuana Cartels in US Parks and Forests

By TRACIE CONE – 8 hours ago

PORTERVILLE, Calif. (AP) — National forests and parks — long popular with Mexican marijuana-growing cartels — have become home to some of the most polluted pockets of wilderness in America because of the toxic chemicals needed to eke lucrative harvests from rocky mountainsides, federal officials said.

The grow sites have taken hold from the West Coast's Cascade Mountains, as well as on federal lands in Kentucky, Tennessee and West Virginia.

Seven hundred grow sites were discovered on U.S. Forest Service land in California alone in 2007 and 2008 — and authorities say the 1,800-square-mile Sequoia National Forest is the hardest hit.

Weed and bug sprays, some long banned in the U.S., have been smuggled to the marijuana farms. Plant growth hormones have been dumped into streams, and the water has then been diverted for miles in PVC pipes.

Rat poison has been sprinkled over the landscape to keep animals away from tender plants. And many sites are strewn with the carcasses of deer and bears poached by workers during the five-month growing season that is now ending.

"What's going on on public lands is a crisis at every level," said Forest Service agent Ron Pugh. "These are America's most precious resources, and they are being devastated by an unprecedented commercial enterprise conducted by armed foreign nationals. It is a huge mess."

The first documented marijuana cartels were discovered in Sequoia National Park in 1998. Then, officials say, tighter border controls after Sept. 11, 2001, forced industrial-scale growers to move their operations into the United States.

Millions of dollars are spent every year to find and uproot marijuana-growing operations on state and federal lands, but federal officials say no money is budgeted to clean up the environmental mess left behind after helicopters carry off the plants. They are encouraged that Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who last year secured funding for eradication, has inquired about the pollution problems.

In the meantime, the only cleanup is done by volunteers. On Tuesday, the nonprofit High Sierra Trail Crew, founded to improve access to public lands, plans to take 30 people deep into the Sequoia National Forest to carry out miles of drip irrigation pipe, tons of human garbage, volatile propane canisters, and bags and bottles of herbicides and pesticides.

"If the people of California knew what was going on out there, they'd be up in arms about this," said Shane Krogen, the nonprofit's executive director. "Helicopters full of dope are like body counts in the Vietnam War. What does it really mean?"

Last year, law enforcement agents uprooted nearly five million plants in California, nearly a half million in Kentucky and 276,000 in Washington state as the development of hybrid plants has expanded the range of climates marijuana can tolerate.

"People light up a joint, and they have no idea the amount of environmental damage associated with it," said Cicely Muldoon, deputy regional director of the Pacific West Region of the National Park Service.

As of Sept. 2, more than 2.2 million plants had been uprooted statewide. The largest single bust in the nation this year netted 482,000 plants in the remote Sierra of Tulare County, the forest service said.

Some popular parks also have suffered damage. In 2007, rangers found more than 20,000 plants in Yosemite National Park and 43,000 plants in Sequoia Kings Canyon National Park, where 159 grow sites have been discovered over the past 10 years.

Agent Patrick Foy of the California Department of Fish and Game estimated that 1.5 pounds of fertilizers and pesticides is used for every 11.5 plants.

"I've seen the pesticide residue on the plants," Foy said. "You ain't just smoking pot, bud. You're smoking some heavy-duty pesticides from Mexico."

Scott Wanek, the western regional chief ranger for the National Park Service, said he believes the eradication efforts have touched only a small portion of the marijuana farms and that the environmental impact is much greater than anyone knows.

"Think about Sequoia," Wanek said. "The impact goes well beyond the acreage planted. They create huge networks of trail systems, and the chemicals that get into watersheds are potentially very far-reaching — all the way to drinking water for the downstream communities. We are trying to smoke it now."

rmptr
 

Hi rmptr, thanks for this interesting topic. ;D
There is one fairly simple solution to that situation, that will; remove that entire criminal and environmentally criminal problem, while saving the government as much money as a (drug) war costs and at the same time providing additional tax revenues and legal employment for thousands of people.
Legalise farming of the plant and personal possession and use of marijuana and tax it like tobacco and alcohol.

I'll be interested to see how many other people agree, or not :thumbsup:

Mike
 

yup thats a problem around here. last year we found some growing at Rock Creek Ca.
 

Hey there Mike!

Good to see you weigh in on a sensitive subject!

Here in California, the general Citizenry doesn't think much of Federal intrusion into personal affairs.
Recently they have voted to make marijuana dispensaries legal for those in need of the drug provided they get a note from their physician.

I personally know a number of individuals who have some extremely difficult physical problems.
If smoking marijuana helps them out, I would be the last to stop them.

Yet I must say, we have an elected Sheriff in our county who feels closer to the fed than the people who elected him to office. He has called in fed drug enforcement personnel to raid and close down a dispensary.

I suppose now, those users will need to buy from those who grow in our parks.

I am very much opposed to the concept that marijuana use is harmless.
If it had no effect, there would be no interest in it.

It's beyond my pay grade to decide if it should be legalized or not.
I don't think it ever shall.
Both the drug, and alcohol lobbies would strongly oppose legalization.

Now hemp is a different story!
We SHOULD be growing a LOT of hemp, as we once did.
It is an extremely useful plant.
It is possibly more useful than what George Washington Carver was able to do with the peanut.

Best
rmptr
 

Here's a recently retired Member of our Parliament
Nandor_Tanczos.webp
 

Not unusual to find dream gardens in local foothills and National and State Forests, especially in all of California.

Humboldt County has the largest annual illegal agricultural cash crop...other counties follow suite.
 

I figure there's three options...


-Loosen the border controls


-Legalize the plant


or


-Pave over the parks with concrete
 

Only two problems with Miss Mary Jane here, one she's too expensive and two Don't Bogaurd that Joint dude ! ;D :D
 

MAKE IT LEGAL! :love5:
 

??? If it is so easy to smuggle in pesticides from Mexico why not fill the drums with bud ???
puff...puff...pass
 

BuckleBoy said:
I figure there's three options...


-Loosen the border controls


-Legalize the plant


or


-Pave over the parks with concrete

I can finish concrete! ;D
 

Oh, I'm sure a possibility exists, Takoda.

I met a US Army Sergeant, Al... and his wife was also Army...

Not sure about her, but his job was rappelling down from helicopters for the DEA and chopping away on eradication missions... here in the US. Only... No overseas stuff.

Al was one of my customers, nice guy.
Another of my favorites was an infantry captain. Just a great guy!

:icon_sunny:
rmptr
 

I figure there's three options...
-Loosen the border controls
-Legalize the plant
or
-Pave over the parks with concrete.
=========================================================================
1 more- - - an open hunting season on illegal alien pot growers.
 

Just need a B-52 converted into a cropduster, and a load of genetically-engineered cannabis pollen that will take the "high" out of the plants. Could hit every state park in the country on one flight.... ;D :D
 

Zephyr said:
Just need a B-52 converted into a cropduster, and a load of genetically-engineered cannabis pollen that will take the "high" out of the plants. Could hit every state park in the country on one flight.... ;D :D

That would never happen. For one thing the greenies would scream murder. Not to mention the number of Washington D.C. elite who are closet tokers. ;D :wink:
 

I used to work for the DNR in MN. according to state of MN, marijuana is not considered a noxious weed, so therefore they do not spray or attempt to destroy the plant on state land, unless they receive a complaint from a citizen.
free weed, I'm not complaining
 

I tried growing it in the woods back in the 1970's but the dang deer ate it all!
{On the other hand, hunting was good back then too...} ;D
 

Marijuana is Bad ! As you can clearly see in this documentary ........Watch it if you Dare !!!!

[video=google;-6696582420128930236]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6696582420128930236[/video]
 

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