Hahahaha BS abounds as just went through this exact same bs in Shasta county Tax office as they presented us with the list sent to them by the BLM to look through for a claim my friend wanted to file but too late.
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Originally Posted by
Hoser John 
LR2000 has been given to the enviros and trashed. Go with your buddies ideas as BLM will even send to your door all the info-new or historic-on any area for a lousy buck a page from the public room. Simply watch the rain fall and call in kalif. 1-916-978-4400 and you will get what you need BUT-always one.
I'm of the opinion that a certain portion of BLM employees are the "enviros". The "new" geocommunicator is just a logical progression of the decline in BLM records information that began with the 2012 takedown of the geocommunicater land status display (including mining claims).
Copies from the BLM in California are 17 cents a page. They were 15 cents a page for many years and sometimes still are depending on who you ask.
Originally Posted by
Hoser John
Every year the BLM sends all recorders offices "their" inaccurate list of new/dropped claims. Then takes the Tax Appraiser months-if at all-to log/change the records and takes the Recorders Office many various times to even log into the public records new claims.
The BLM does no such thing. A few Counties in California do charge tax and they can pull their information from the LR2000 records like everyone else if they wish but there is no requirement they do so.
California State Board of Equalization (PDF) They don't need to communicate with the BLM because they rely on the County Records claim owners are required to make by law.
If you abandon a claim and don't make a Record at the County you can still be charged tax. It would be unwise to rely on the BLM to fulfill your obligation to inform the County when you no longer have a claim. That might be why you imagine the BLM is providing an "inaccurate list"?
Originally Posted by
Hoser John
90 days to file so feets on the ground is mandatory. Involved helping out associates on 2 contested situations right now. Prepare to get filthy as computer claiming abounds and I'd be a millionaire for all the stolen claims I've seen. Mark your claims BUT do not file till the last minute as claimjumpers now have computer programs that scan public records and you date your work today BUT they backfile and viola you got no claim. Dog eat dog and never forget. John
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It's true that if you record and file your claim location notice at the end of the 90 days it's just as valid if you do it on the first day of location.
It's untrue that a backdater can take your claim. Claims are made on the ground. The recording or filing date does not determine when a claim was located.
If a locator isn't careful to document his location staking event (pictures, witnesses) they may find themselves in court trying to defend their claim with paperwork. Knowledgeable locators and miners win these cases easily because they have witnesses and pictures to back them up. Witnesses and pictures win against paper proof every time. If a locator can't prove the facts of their location they may have problems later but it won't be because of their filing date it will be because or their lax location proof.
In my experience claim jumpers are the least of a locators worries.
I study and map more than 1,000 mining claims a year and I have virtually never seen an example of locators backdating a location notice to "claim jump" a new location. I have, on the other hand, seen hundreds of backdated recordings by locators trying to avoid the sinister and virtually non existent "claim jumping" being warned about here. Much more common is paper only locations. Even more common than that is overclaiming existing claims. The fact is that it is illegal to backdate any mining claim location notice. Backdating does not ever create a valid claim. Paper claiming is a crime. Overclaiming a preexisting claim doesn't result in a valid mining claim.
Most crooks are lazy. Most crooks paper claim or overclaim but their intent is to sell bogus claims to unsuspecting buyers. Crooks aren't lying in wait for someone to make a claim. Thousands of claims a month are located and any experienced miner will tell you that new claims are not an indicator of rich or even profitable ground. Trying to jump someone's new claim on the off chance it's rich ground would run a miner bankrupt within weeks.""
What a waste of time as you will say anything and everything against my every post no matter how insipid or stupidly irrelevant to the real issue at hand. All you want to do is divide hahahha like their is any miner unity see PLP,MMUA cash steal mess . Grow up and contribute as you can but your intense hatred has you flummoxed to the point of insanity. We spent many hours going over the claim list but multiple people are wrong because you say so?? Hahah I DID NOT SAY ALL COUNTIES TAX- as you create insipid bs evermore to fight over you made up declarations. Hibankers and water quality board yet another righteous example as you pontificate NO NEVER REQUIRED -hahaha as we've had WQ meetings and new laws since Jan 16 on and on and on -get a life and quit killing this forum I've been an contributor for over 21 years and ain't going nowhere. John
