More NE oklahoma color

[naturegirl]

These are finds from my co-worker two weeks ago. She found a boatload of flakes, and her favorite one is the foracre knife/scraper(?). One of the biggest artifacts she has found. Is it what one would call a "turtleback"? I've seen that term on this forum. Thanks for looking.

 

[Charmin]

I have a question about that material on the knife/scraper----Is that foracre chert or permian chert? I need to figure out the difference. Was that knife a dark charcoal color or a blue-gray color, Lisa?
Sorry if this is a d u m b question!
Tell your co-worker thanks for letting you post her finds!
I always enjoy seeing finds from our area.
Carmon~~

 

[mainer]

Wow, what colors on those tools.

 

[naturegirl]

Thanks mainer, I'm into color, so even if I only find a handful of flakes around here, I'm happy.
sandcreek- I thought you'd like to see these, she hunts closer to you than buckshot and I do.(but not your backyard )

I think you are right about the dark one being permian instead of foraker. I couldn't think of permian. What we think foraker is, is the medium grey, with obvious fusilid fossils. you know, the football shaped fossils? It's one of the four types of Florence. Almost 3/4 of the flakes she finds are this type, while we find only a few. But we hunt all over, she only has two spots, (good ones at that).

I have as much trouble chasing down chert types as I do trying to pin down point types, do you think a flint/chert type thread for this area would be good? A place for OK,KS,ARK and MO type flints? There is alot of overlap.

Happy hunting!
lisa

Buckshot just found an explanation of permian to be an inclusive term for the outcroppings of all Florence types in the Flint Hills.

http://www.ksartifacts.info/ksartifacts1.htm

 

[Charmin]

Thanks mainer, I'm into color, so even if I only find a handful of flakes around here, I'm happy.
sandcreek- I thought you'd like to see these, she hunts closer to you than buckshot and I do.(but not your backyard )

I think you are right about the dark one being permian instead of foraker. I couldn't think of permian. What we think foraker is, is the medium grey, with obvious fusilid fossils. you know, the football shaped fossils? It's one of the four types of Florence. Almost 3/4 of the flakes she finds are this type, while we find only a few. But we hunt all over, she only has two spots, (good ones at that).

I have as much trouble chasing down chert types as I do trying to pin down point types, do you think a flint/chert type thread for this area would be good? A place for OK,KS,ARK and MO type flints? There is alot of overlap.
Happy hunting!
lisa

YES! I think that's a great idea. I know it would sure help me, cause I get all the different types of chert confused sometimes. I didn't even realize there were four types of Florence.

 

[Th3rty7]

Nice looking lithics NG, thanks for sharing.

 

[catherine1]

Great Artifact finds. I have found a lot of those turtle back pcs. The term has to relate to tools as all of mine are such. I am currently trying to determine the age of my tools. I do not know how to date tools other than dating them to the points I have found in the area. All I can figure is they needed more tools than points. I guess when they killed a deer with one point they needed 4 or 5 tools to process the meat, hide, and bones.
But of course it takes a tool to make a tool, even today. And the list goes on. Keep searching. it looks like the area has some excellent potential. Nice pics. Keith.