๐Ÿ”Ž UNIDENTIFIED More oddball brass

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Here's another one for your amusement. They're also beach finds in the same area I found shrapnel and bullets. They look like cleats for athletic shoes, but, I doubt very seriously they are. I've found cleats before and they weren't like these. Very fine threads and they have a couple of flat areas in the center section near the threads. Some sort of specialized bullet?
 

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It resembles a plug for a hydraulic pressure line. Iโ€™m not saying it is, just that it looks a lot like ones Iโ€™ve used. Very solid piece. Good luck ๐Ÿ€
 
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They resemble a 1st-half-of-the-20th-Century artillery fuze, used in some varieties of small-caliber shells.

Question about the underside:
Does the hole in the center go anywhere? (Does it have ANY kind of opening to the fuze's interior?) Or is it just a very shallow "dimple" type of hole.
 
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They resemble a 1st-half-of-the-20th-Century artillery fuze, used in some varieties of small-caliber shells.

Question about the underside:
Does the hole in the center go anywhere? (Does it have ANY kind of opening to the fuze's interior?) Or is it just a very shallow "dimple" type of hole.
One looks to be just a shallow hole with a flat brass bottom. The other is still packed with some sand and encrustation. It goes deeper though and I don't see any brass bottom as yet.
 
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It appears that these have two threaded parts and can be separated. not asking you to but was wondering if youโ€™ve already tried.
I haven't tried to remove that section, but, it looks like it might come apart right there. What does that tell you?
 
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Why am I getting the feeling that you already know what this is and youโ€™re just trying to stump people for the answer?
I believe Iโ€™m done here.
I don't know why you get that feeling, but, it's simply not true. I'm not an ammo expert (it these items are actually ammo related) so I came here for a firm I.D. Guesses are welcome too, but, I was hoping it was a no-brainer for someone who IS an expert in that area. You posted something similar, but, hardly a match and expect it to totally answer my question and solve the mystery? With some confirmation from others it might help your case.
 
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cm - Can you drop a link to the post you referenced in this sentence: "They're also beach finds in the same area I found shrapnel and bullets."

So these are San Diego beach finds?
 
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cm - Can you drop a link to the post you referenced in this sentence: "They're also beach finds in the same area I found shrapnel and bullets."

So these are San Diego beach finds?
Yes, San Diego beach finds after a storm went through. I'm not sure how to drop a link to one of my other posts.
 
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I'm no expert on such things, but, I'd say WW2 era based on some of the shell casings with dates in the 40's. Some other items were a bit earlier....at least made earlier.....the camera shutter bezel I found there has a patent date of 1908-1910. That could have been lost years later of course. Some of these beach areas also received lots of bay dredgings over the years too, so, they may originate from a complete different area.
 
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I'm no expert on such things, but, I'd say WW2 era based on some of the shell casings with dates in the 40's. Some other items were a bit earlier....at least made earlier.....the camera shutter bezel I found there has a patent date of 1908-1910. That could have been lost years later of course. Some of these beach areas also received lots of bay dredgings over the years too, so, they may originate from a complete different area.
I'm guessing to were in a training area.

My brother has a beach house at Sandbridge Island, VA. The military used the beach and the off-shore for training for decades. The beach reclamation project brought all kinds of military related stuff up on to the beach. He has an interesting and eclectic collection.

This is a bit of a long shot. Not an exact match but the closest I've found so far...

From the (very little) research I did, there were several companies attempting to sell rifle grenades to the US Army early in the war.

I saw a pic of one without the nose tip, which leads me to believe they were screw-in, but I can't find it now. :-/

It makes me wonder if these were like the practice bombs used by the Army Air Corps - which used a small explosive charge so you could mark your hit (or miss) during training. Air Corps practice bombs used a 12 GA shotgun shell.

M11A3 practice rifle grenade tip. Early WWII era:

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