You live on the east coast none of these issues affect you. You are not fighting for anything. In fact you have not been on this forum or any other long enough to even know the background and efforts of the people here who are making you look extremely foolish. You post links that back up the facts we present continually yet, claim we aren't listening to you. How can you post links to cases and events where the subject is about people standing up for their constitutional rights and say miners are blind, unknowing and unwilling to fight? How can you, in the face of people who are saying we know the laws and will stay within them, and that we won't let unlawful regulations and propaganda stop us from doing something we have been doing for years and decades, call us the problem? You are saying we can't do something we know we can and accuse us of doing nothing, and just standing by. You have not been paying attention. You use links taken out of context and without complete text to try to prove some point and claim to be trying to help. You are helping nothing. There is no such thing as "Recreational Mining"