Mystery gun hammer, can anyone ID the weapon?

[BuckleBoy]

Hello all,

I know that many flintlocks were converted over to percussion cap, but that being said I think I’m dealing with a post CW 1800s gun here, rather than an earlier flintlock conversion. Just a bunch. Not sure if anyone can help track down a probable rifle or shotgun from this hammer alone, but since it has that distinctive 90 degree bend in it I hoped it was possible. The short sides where I marked with red the metal is broken by a plow strike, but the rest of the piece the contours are integral as made.

 

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[Charlie P. (NY)]

Every image I find is protected - but search on a "percussion tube lock" and look through the various hammers. It's a late percussion style where the percussion material is in a tube that eigher slides into the nose of the hammer or a drum on the barrel.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Every image I find is protected - but search on a "percussion tube lock" and look through the various hammers. It's a late percussion style where the percussion material is in a tube that eigher slides into the nose of the hammer or a drum on the barrel.

hello Charlie, you’ve got a great point here with the angle of the hammer and the small “business end” of it.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

I'm not sure that it's a hammer, looking at it I'm more inclined to think it's some sort of latch, like a window or shutter lock

 

[BuckleBoy]

Has now been cleaned and it’s definitely a hammer

 

[BuckleBoy]

 

[DCMatt]

Has now been cleaned and it’s definitely a hammer

Well, you're the one with it in your hand. And I know you're not new to this sort of thing...

But I'm having trouble with that square nut. If it's a hammer, shouldn't the hammer screw be fastened to a tumbler?

 

[BuckleBoy]

Well, you're the one with it in your hand. And I know you're not new to this sort of thing...

But I'm having trouble with that square nut. If it's a hammer, shouldn't the hammer screw be fastened to a tumbler?

Good question Matt! I was a little troubled by that too but I think what we’re seeing may be the square “nut end” from the tumbler there, as both the nut and the screw are sheared off and the metal is broken on the piece I dug. Do you think that’s possible?

 

[DCMatt]

Good question Matt! I was a little troubled by that too but I think what we’re seeing may be the square “nut end” from the tumbler there, as both the nut and the screw are sheared off and the metal is broken on the piece I dug. Do you think that’s possible?

Well, shove my guitar case under the bed and call me shorty.

You are correct. That's the part of the tumbler called the lock shaft?

I searched and saw several others.


So was it mounted on the left side of the gun? Like a double barrel?

 

[BuckleBoy]

Well, shove my guitar case under the bed and call me shorty.

You are correct. That's the part of the tumbler called the lock shaft?

I searched and saw several others.

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So was it mounted on the left side of the gun? Like a double barrel?

Yeah, lock shaft. And yes it appears it was mounted on the left side of the gun so I agree with you we’re looking for a double barrel muzzle loader here. Should help narrow it down.