Need help decoding Jesuit symbols

[adventurewithpurpose]

I believe this to be a Jesuit symbol, maybe directions to a church treasure?
It is chiseled into rock on the coast of British Columbia in one of the many inlets. The geometry is %100 accurate and it’s evenly and fine chiseled like a mason would chisel a gravestone. See picture attached

 

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[GirlWithWolf]

In trying to break codes I’ve seen the triangle in a circle represent the Christian Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Ghost, in unity/infinity of the circle). Which leads me to think this could be related to that, especially with the cross symbol next to it.

But I can’t understand how the square relates to it or find anything online where there is a square present.

 

[Bucket Lister]

I believe this to be a Jesuit symbol, maybe directions to a church treasure?

What makes you think it's Jesuit (vs. say... Freemason, Templar or something else?)
and if a/The Church did bury something (which I highly doubt), why would they go to such lengths rather than writing it down and keeping it in the church documents?

It is chiseled into rock on the coast of British Columbia in one of the many inlets. The geometry is %100 accurate and it’s evenly and fine chiseled like a mason would chisel a gravestone.

"The geometry is %100 accurate" What does that mean, and how do you know? Geometry of what?

Again, it seems like a lot of rigmarole when they could more easily write down, "Look for 3 boulders near the overlook north of Drake's Landing. In the center of the three, dig 2 fathoms to the chest."

For security, they could just as easily encode that, and it wouldn't be published out in the open for anyone to solve & find.

See picture attached

I know I complain about my eyes a lot, but it looks more like pencil on lined paper to me.

No offense, but a photo of the actual stone would be much better, and no possibility of error, omission, or misinterpretation.

 

[adventurewithpurpose]

What makes you think it's Jesuit (vs. say... Freemason, Templar or something else?)
and if a/The Church did bury something (which I highly doubt), why would they go to such lengths rather than writing it down and keeping it in the church documents?


"The geometry is %100 accurate" What does that mean, and how do you know? Geometry of what?

Again, it seems like a lot of rigmarole when they could more easily write down, "Look for 3 boulders near the overlook north of Drake's Landing. In the center of the three, dig 2 fathoms to the chest."

For security, they could just as easily encode that, and it wouldn't be published out in the open for anyone to solve & find.


I know I complain about my eyes a lot, but it looks more like pencil on lined paper to me.

No offense, but a photo of the actual stone would be much better, and no possibility of error, omission, or misinterpretation.

The Mackenzie Sound Rock Carving

 

[adventurewithpurpose]

I believe this to be a Jesuit symbol, maybe directions to a church treasure?
It is chiseled into rock on the coast of British Columbia in one of the many inlets. The geometry is %100 accurate and it’s evenly and fine chiseled like a mason would chisel a gravestone. See picture attached

 

[adventurewithpurpose]

What makes you think it's Jesuit (vs. say... Freemason, Templar or something else?)
and if a/The Church did bury something (which I highly doubt), why would they go to such lengths rather than writing it down and keeping it in the church documents?


"The geometry is %100 accurate" What does that mean, and how do you know? Geometry of what?

Again, it seems like a lot of rigmarole when they could more easily write down, "Look for 3 boulders near the overlook north of Drake's Landing. In the center of the three, dig 2 fathoms to the chest."

For security, they could just as easily encode that, and it wouldn't be published out in the open for anyone to solve & find.


I know I complain about my eyes a lot, but it looks more like pencil on lined paper to me.

No offense, but a photo of the actual stone would be much better, and no possibility of error, omission, or misinterpretation.

By %100 geometry I mean that the triangle, circle and square is equally centred

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

The Mackenzie Sound Rock Carving

So are you talking about same stone carving or different stone carving?

 

[adventurewithpurpose]

So are you talking about same stone carving or different stone carving?

The same

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Moved thread to Treasure Marks/Signs forum to help.

 

[Bucket Lister]

Thanks for the photo.

I'm sorry, but this is not what I would call, "evenly and fine chiseled like a mason would chisel a gravestone". Competent, but crude.

Do an image search on some 400 year old [Ed: granite] gravestones, and you'll find 2 things:

1. Much better craftsmanship, and
2. Considerable erosion/weathering, which I don't see here either.

This suggests the carving may be much more recent.

The link doesn't even hint at treasure, Jesuits or any other religious group. What it does say is, "No one came up with any explanation."

The last 2 paragraphs pretty much sum it up:

We are truly impressed by the number of Chronicle readers wandering around in obscure, deserted MacKenzie Sound knocking the moss off that particular rock. Your friends are the fourth party to claim discovery since Mr. Zablosky's photograph appeared in our second issue. The only person to offer a positive opinion as to the carving's meaning and origin so far is Tom Hudson of Campbell River, who states:

These signs are to be found all over the world, where they were spread by the wise men of each age, as a reminder of the basic principles essential to every form of life including man.

IOW, it's not a map; I think it's an early version of "Killroy was here!"

 

[Blackfoot58]

The number 3 is often symbolized to represent Perfect God. Usually signified by an equilateral triangle.
The number 4 often symbolizes Imperfect man and is represented by a square. It may also be representational of a Rough Ashlar; a stone that needs more work to be perfected. The cross kind of speaks for itself. I’d see Scottish Rite or York Rite Masonry as a possibility for the source of these. See if this helps you see the significance of the circle. 👍🏼

 

[adventurewithpurpose]

Considerable erosion/weathering, which I don't see here either.

It’s granite rock, there won’t be much or any erosion, so the age is hard to tell,

 

[Bucket Lister]

It’s granite rock, there won’t be much or any erosion, so the age is hard to tell,

No? Take another look at those 400 year old granite gravestones. 😉

 

[adventurewithpurpose]

Yes…. It was covered in moss that would have it preserved for time and time again…… untill studied and truly inspected in person you can’t tell how old it is, no point arguing about it

 

[Bucket Lister]

Yes…. It was covered in moss that would have it preserved for time and time again…… untill studied and truly inspected in person you can’t tell how old it is, no point arguing about it

Moss would cause the stone to break down even faster.

I don't need to inspect the two men below in person to know the one on the right is older than the one on the left.

One certainly can't tell the precise age of your carving, but from its condition, I think we can tell it probably isn't old enough to have been left by early Hudson's Bay explorers as claimed.

You asked for help "decoding" Jesuit symbols, and said that you thought they were, "directions to a church treasure".

I don't think they're Jesuit, I don't think they're directions to a church treasure, and I explained why.

Sorry you didn't like the answers.

 

[adventurewithpurpose]

Hey no worries. I have my own ideas, just think of that…… who would leave a message like this?

 

[adventurewithpurpose]

Prove it…… if moss covers a rock ……. It is preserved for the time

 

[DizzyDigger]

Just a WAG here, but my initial thought on seeing the image is that it's a burial marker.

 

[Bucket Lister]

Hey no worries. I have my own ideas, just think of that…… who would leave a message like this?

Same idjits who spray, carve, or chisel graffiti on every surface they encounter.

 

[Bucket Lister]

Prove it…… if moss covers a rock ……. It is preserved for the time

Prove it ‽ 🤨 I'll indulge you this once. When I state something as fact, rest assured I can back it up with citations/sources.

Mosses are often the first plants to colonize exposed rocky areas and help break down rock by the freezing of water retained by the plant and by the action of secreted chemicals.

Read more at: https://www.theinteriorjournal.com/2023/05/05/moss-is-worth-a-closer-look/

Organisms such as moss, algae, lichen that grow on rocks can cause the disintegration of rocks. All of these organisms can also work to make rocks weaker and eventually disintegrate them.

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