need hold once again with hallmarks sterling or plated?

[snowdogg70]

i picked this up today but cant find these hallmarks my gut tells mee sterling because of the craftsmanship and toning and i also dont see EP on it but i also dont see the lion so i am also wondering the date as it looks pretty old to me any help is much appreciated thanks it also weighs 907 grams

 

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[GibH]

Silver plate. John Round & Son, Sheffield I think.

English silver is always going to be hallmarked.

 

[snowdogg70]

i think yo might be right ,i am hoping youre wrong tho lol

 

[JimDon]

Definitely silver plate. A wonderful piece

 

[snowdogg70]

any value?

 

[tamrock]

any value?

Maybe. It looks like a quality piece of antique silver plate.

 

[Red-Coat]

Those are not hallmarks and yes it’s definitely silver plate from John Round of Sheffield, England. Although established in 1847, their mark didn’t include ‘& S’ (for and Son) on plate until 1863.

Your set of marks also includes the ‘four trident’ trademark formerly used by Joseph Ridge, which puts it a little later. In 1886 Round’s business amalgamated with Ridge, Allcard & Co (also of Sheffield) with Joseph Ridge as general manager. Pieces from Round & Son that also bear Ridge’s tridents trademark are believed to have been made after that merger and so date from 1886 onwards, until perhaps as late as 1915.

Although it’s a nice piece, there really isn’t much market for these. You’ll see higher speculative pricing on fleabay, but you should be able to pick up a 4-piece set with tea and coffee pots (or one pot and a hot water jug) plus milk/cream jug and sugar bowl for about $75.

 

[GibH]

Those are not hallmarks and yes it’s definitely silver plate from John Round of Sheffield, England. Although established in 1847, their mark didn’t include ‘& S’ (for and Son) on plate until 1863.

Your set of marks also includes the ‘four trident’ trademark formerly used by Joseph Ridge, which puts it a little later. In 1886 Round’s business amalgamated with Ridge, Allcard & Co (also of Sheffield) with Joseph Ridge as general manager. Pieces from Round & Son that also bear Ridge’s tridents trademark are believed to have been made after that merger and so date from 1886 onwards, until perhaps as late as 1915.

Although it’s a nice piece, there really isn’t much market for these. You’ll see higher speculative pricing on fleabay, but you should be able to pick up a 4-piece set with tea and coffee pots (or one pot and a hot water jug) plus milk/cream jug and sugar bowl for about $75.

Great information, however I never said they were hallmarks. I said English silver would always be hallmarked. That isn't silver, it's plated, which was my point.

Edit: Sorry, after re-reading I see you were replying to the OP's use of hallmarks.

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Nice piece!