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Mississippi Jim

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I found this broken spur Saturday. I have only been able to find one other on the Internet with a square hole for the separate spur neck. Any help on the spur would be much appreciated! It is also bent inside out (possible bulldozer years ago). I found it near the clipped corner belt buckle I posted in today's finds.

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~UPDATED BELOW~ Please help if you can. Pictures of the neck, I now found below.
 
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I've built spurs without using a welder in the past, and the square hole is so the shank won't turn.
spur4.webp The shank extends from the heel, and holds the rowel. The small part that is turned up on the shank is called the "chap guard." The hole where the shank is mounted onto the U shaped portion is first drilled, then filed square, and the part of the shank that goes through the hole is also filed square so that it is an easy fit, doesn't have to be real tight. The filed part of the shank protrudes through the square hold, and is heated red hot using a torch, then it is peened with a hammer so that the square shaft fills the hole tightly. That way the shank can't turn. There are other ways to build spurs, but I've done it this way on several I've made.
 
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Found the neck ~ now I am really stumped

The spur was actually bent inside out (bulldozer most likely). I was able to straight the spur. Then I found what appears to be the neck portion. It is also bent as shown. Even though it is bent like that, it fits half way in and if I hit it with a file once on each side it would be a perfect fit. I have search the internet every day for a spur like this, with no luck. There are some that the rowel is horizontal (raking, not real common) and the typical vertical (very common) but none like this vertical position. I would appreciate any help on this one. I was told the square hole (separate neck piece could be prewar) I have found this type of spur. But nothing on the rowel position.
 

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That's really interesting. I've never seen anything like it, but rest assured, I've not seen every kind of spur either, and never fail to be surprised by a
a new one. If what you have is in fact what you think it is, I'd say it's one of the more rare items posted on this forum, and you have me looking at
photo's of spurs, hoping to find something close to what you have.
 
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thanks, I found it Wednesday and I been on the net ever since trying to find anything like that rowel position. No luck yet! It was about 40 feet from the spur and all the relics must have been hit with a bulldozer. I was able to straighten the belt buckle and spur. I started to try to straighten the neck but the tip broke right away so I will leave it like this. It also has traces of silver wash on it.
 
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I cant see how that would work as a neck ,I dont know how a rowel would even go on it.
 
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I am not 100% that it is the neck, but it fits.
 
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