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I found this watch fob when I was in Arizona for the winter and would like to find out how old it is and maybe who made it. It shows the old mission in San Diego, and says " Where California Began 1769 ". Any help would be much appreciated. I have tried to do extensive research on the net with no luck. Thanks in advance for any info. IMG_0004.webp
 

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Search - 1915 San Diego's Panama-California Exposition
 

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That's why I use bing
 

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Johncoho said:
Is there any information about this fob? That is the one I have.
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I was waiting for you to ask. :laughing7: I did both a Google and Bing image search but couldnt find it. Maybe Icewing will be nice enough to tell us where he found that image.:laughing7:
 

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I also did a Google and Bing search and couldn't find anything about it.
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I was waiting for you to ask. :laughing7: I did both a Google and Bing image search but couldnt find it. Maybe Icewing will be nice enough to tell us where he found that image.:laughing7:
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Icewing said:
I just found the image by searching the words that were on it, unfortunately the link went to an expired ebay sale. Sorry I couldn't help more.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=where+california+began+fob&FORM=HDRSC2&PC=MOZB
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I hate when that happens. Sometimes you keep fooling with it on Google and it will come up but Im not at all familiar with Bing.

So you didnt do an "image search", you searched by typing in key words?

Google has an actual "Image Search" where no key words are needed just upload the photo or right click on the photo and click on "Search Google for Image" but its basically useless.
 

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Yes bing has what you are calling an image search,
If you read, an image search is not intended to find or identify an item, it matches pixels to help find the source of an image. It's always better to do a web search bases on a discription, then just click images at the top op the page.

Or you can go to www.images.bing.com
 

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Icewing said:
Yes bing has what you are calling an image search,
If you read, an image search is not intended to find or identify an item, it matches pixels to help find the source of an image. It's always better to do a web search bases on a discription, then just click images at the top op the page.

Or you can go to www.images.bing.com
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I find the "image search" useless. I misunderstood you when you replied: "That's why I use bing" (for the image search) The only reason I even asked you about it is because another member has been insisting that it (image search) works and we should use it. He has even gone as far as to suggest the OP take a photo without a size reference. I believe it may be useful in finding the exact same photo if its a public photo. But that wont help us here. I agree the best way is by description and the key is to be knowledgeable enough to know what key words to use. But you have to check both "All" and "Images." You can miss it completely just scrolling through the images and often, like in this case, the image will lack a description.

Old eBay sales are usually kept on Worthpoint. It may be worth searching there but you need a subscription to view the price. But if it didnt sell, they may not have saved it.
 

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Thanks for the info you have. I guess there is no way to go back and see the original Ebay listing. I tried to several ways.
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Is there a manufacturers mark on the back?
 

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I just wanted to show you what it used to look like and that it might be rare but it's not the only one, so someone somewhere (a collector) knows all about it. You just need to contact a few of the watch fob collectors associations that are online. And make it a point not to accept any offers you get for it. Good luck.
 

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Its a terrible feeling to find a match but you cant pull up any information on it. Yes its good to know its not the only one. We can very possibly date it by the manufacturers mark on the back. And that also gives us more search words. There are also other search engines besides Google and Bing. Have you tried Yahoo or Dogpile? And there is another one I forget the name. https://searchenginewatch.com/2016/02/25/say-goodbye-to-google-14-alternative-search-engines/ I tried Worthpoint but there are other sites. Try searching the watch fob collector sites. https://www.kovels.com/price-guide/watch-fobs.html
Also keep searching different key words, the old ebay listing may surface or you may find another.
 

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