Need your help guys, I think its a reale!!!

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Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

Ok i'll just go through the hole story. Sorry if it is boring.

My grandfather made very good friends with a man in church. He owns one of the oldest houses in the area, built in the 1780's. I have hunted it previously 2 times with nothing but clad and junque. I went back yesterday at the request that i look for the glasses the owner lost. I figured it was like finding a needle in a haystack due to the fact that the glasses have very little metal in them and that he didn't know exactly where they fell out of his pocket. Needless to say, I did not find it.

I asked him if i could go around the yard and he said of course. I started by getting 4 wheaties in an area that I had searched the last few times. :icon_scratch: I moved to the front yard and got a somewhat iffy quarter signal. I dug the hole and the signal was now bouncing around a half dollar, still a bit iffy. I pinpointed the object and thought it was a nice silver dime. I was hoping for a barber or seated. I rubbed some of the dirt off and saw this strange design scratched into the coin. I figured it was a button or something and then i noticed some of the finer details. I saw the bottom of the shield on the back and my heart skipped a beat. I put it in my pocket to be examined later and proceeded to find an 1898 indian head a few feet away.

I got home and cleaned it off a bit more. The shield became more prominent and i think i see a 1 and a 7 and another number after them. I think it's one of those funny looking 5's that the spainards do but i'm not to sure :D. I need your help figuring out the date and what denomination it is. I read somewhere that the 2 reale is between a nickel and quarter in size, but this one is exactly the size of a nickel. Maybe since it's all messed up around the edges it's a bit smaller. If it's 1753 like i think it is, it will have beaten my oldest find by 127 years!! too bad this idiot had to go and mess up the one really cool coin i find.....

here are the pictures i've included...

pic. 1- the back of the coin (notice the shield on the bottom)
pic 2- the back of another coin found on ebay (to compare with pic. 1)
pic 3- the front of the coin i found, notice the date on bottom
pic 4- the front of a coin on ebay, look at funny looking 5
pic 5- coin next to the indian head i found

Thanks!!!
 

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Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

it looks to me like someone was trying to make a button. the scoring would insure that the shank was in the center. it was very worn before they started, so it would have looked like a nice shiney silver button when they were done. very nice find!
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

Looks to me like it's a " Reale Bottlecap "........ ;D Nice finds tho.......Not GE
 

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hollowpointred said:
it looks to me like someone was trying to make a button. the scoring would insure that the shank was in the center. it was very worn before they started, so it would have looked like a nice shiney silver button when they were done. very nice find!

Nice find...I think a button in the making as well!
 

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that is a really cool find!

Congrats :thumbsup:
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

Very interesting Real find there. :thumbsup:

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

Now that is a find!!

Burdie
 

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Great find.

Michellets - nice job on the picture. You can clearly see the date.

Bob
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

In Michellets pic, the red line has a question mark--and I'd agree in that the mint mark does not appear as from Mexico City--there doesn't appear to be an 'o' above the 'M'.
 

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Mackaydon said:
In Michellets pic, the red line has a question mark--and I'd agree in that the mint mark does not appear as from Mexico City--there doesn't appear to be an 'o' above the 'M'.

Mexico(1536-1821)
Mintmark-M or M with small o above. The mint produced the following coin types: Pillar type cob - (1536-1572), shield type cob - (1572-1733), milled pillar - (1732-1771), and milled bust - (1771-1821). Ref: http://www.newworldtreasures.com/cointypes.htm

Don
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

Perhaps in some issues within that range of dates 1536-1821 either the M or M with 'o' mintmark is indicated as Mexico City (as referenced above (http://www.newworldtreasures.com/cointypes.htm), though clearly the mintmark for this specific coin is M with 'o' as shown in Frank W. Grove's reference book, Coins of Mexico, Quarterman Publications, Inc. Lawrence, Mass. (1981) p. 85. Actually, there is an "M" standing alone (to the right of the date) but that 'M' refers to the assayer, not the mint.
Don.....
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

They did make buttons from the silver coins,and cut them aswell. Coin button found on a shipwreck.
 

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Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

Hey there grasshopper ! :thumbsup: Could be the makings of a love token. ;D ....rip
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

Super real find!
Joe
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

looks like a reale to me . nice find !!!!!!!!!!!
 

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