Need your help on this one! Counterfeit War Nickel?????

[RyanOShea]

To much to explain. So i made a video. But I believe I have dug a counterfeit war nickel. I know they exist. But the ones I have always been aware of did not have a mint mark. This one does. It also looks like its struck from a mold. And its weight is far to low for a nickel! If you can, PLEASE watch this video I made showing all the things wrong with it. Where I dug it ext. And if you know or have any ideas. comment! Write me. I am totally boggled.
Here is the video link



Ok, on your left you are looking at a 1943 P Mint War Nickel I dug about a month ago. To your right. You are looking at what I think is a COUNTERFEIT 1943 P mint war nickel!

 

[Marc(NB)]

the one on the right looks like it was tumbled in the surf casing it to wear and pit.

 

[DanRiverMan]

Looks to me like it has been in a rock tumbler with rocks and has been sandblasted...

 

[Deepdiger60]

To much to explain. So i made a video. But I believe I have dug a counterfeit war nickel. I know they exist. But the ones I have always been aware of did not have a mint mark. This one does. It also looks like its struck from a mold. And its weight is far to low for a nickel! If you can, PLEASE watch this video I made showing all the things wrong with it. Where I dug it ext. And if you know or have any ideas. comment! Write me. I am totally boggled.
Here is the video link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-h_5avI7ZM


Ok, on your left you are looking at a 1943 P Mint War Nickel I dug about a month ago. To your right. You are looking at what I think is a COUNTERFEIT 1943 P mint war nickel!

Just about all 5 war nickles i have dug look like that pitted and blistered i think its what they are made of Dd60

 

[RyanOShea]

Looks to me like it has been in a rock tumbler with rocks and has been sandblasted...

Why would it be magnetic? Its a shame you cant seem them in person. But it is the exact same size of the others. I should have put that in there. The measurement. The weight is really low too. But I dunno. All i know is its really strange.
Also, I did not dig it anywhere near the surf. I dug it inland at a school built in the 40's.
Thanks for the ideas guys. Please keep em coming.
Next step is to get it tested to see what metals are in it.

 

[RyanOShea]

To much to explain. So i made a video. But I believe I have dug a counterfeit war nickel. I know they exist. But the ones I have always been aware of did not have a mint mark. This one does. It also looks like its struck from a mold. And its weight is far to low for a nickel! If you can, PLEASE watch this video I made showing all the things wrong with it. Where I dug it ext. And if you know or have any ideas. comment! Write me. I am totally boggled.
Here is the video link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-h_5avI7ZM


Ok, on your left you are looking at a 1943 P Mint War Nickel I dug about a month ago. To your right. You are looking at what I think is a COUNTERFEIT 1943 P mint war nickel!

Just about all 5 war nickles i have dug look like that pitted and blistered i think its what they are made of Dd60

Interesting. I have never seen one look like this one before. I have not seen any look like this dug by others either. If you have one you dug that looks the same. Please post it.
This one really almost looked like it was coated at first. Then as I look closely. There are just things that lok wrong. It looks mold stuck rather than pressure struck. There are huge blisters of excess metal. And the words are not clear either.
I could totally be wrong. It could be a real war nickel. But again. It does slightly stick to a magnet. And I know that its comp of metals should not...
Boggled guys....totally boggled.

 

[watercolor]

VERY interesting. . . how does each one "sound" when bounced on a counter?

 

[RyanOShea]

VERY interesting. . . how does each one "sound" when bounced on a counter?

Somewhat the same. but there is a difference. The supposed "fake" sounds slightly more silver like. But, at the same time flat. Its weird. Could just be some kind of oddity of the minerals in the ground I dug it from. But I still cant explain why its magnetic. That is what really has got me!
I know about the Henning Counterfeit War Nickels. I do not believe this to be one. But none the less could be a counterfeit. Or someones weird experiment. Who knows. Coin shop opens friday. So i will take it in and have it checked out.

 

[homefires]

Something is amiss.

I didn't think War Nickels had anything with Magnetic properties within them.

It could have been a bad alloy mix?

http://www.coinflation.com/coins/1942-1945-Silver-War-Nickel-Value.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramagnetic

 

[RyanOShea]

Something is amiss.

I didn't think War Nickels had anything with Magnetic properties within them.

It could have been a bad alloy mix?

http://www.coinflation.com/coins/1942-1945-Silver-War-Nickel-Value.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramagnetic

They dont. Exactly. I have loads of em. And I tested everyone of them. But that could be a good answer to what happened. It could be a bad mix of alloys. I may never find an answer. But I am sure gonna try.

 

[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

Cool story, I'd say its real just been through the ringer. Not sure about magnetic properties... strange.

No matter what its a great find !

Keep @ it and HH !!

 

[RyanOShea]

Cool story, I'd say its real just been through the ringer. Not sure about magnetic properties... strange.

No matter what its a great find !

Keep @ it and HH !!

It does look like its been through the ringer. but why its sticking to a magnet. who knows. Trying to find out is fun though. Just got back from a hunt tonight with Neil. He dug a Rosie Dime. And, I got a...yep, you got it. A freaking war nickel. 1943 s. It was so crappy looking. I didnt know it til I got home and saw the huge S mark on it. But hey, even a wee bit o silver is still great.

 

[mickk]

I obviously know nothing about the subject. However I am wondering if the quality of the metal used in minting declined during the war? might explain the magnetic properties. Wear and tear might account for the weight loss. The worn edge is unusual to me. Seen plenty of old coins but none worn like that one. To be worn like that I reckon it might have been stuck somewhere, like in a car door, sitting vertical and jumping up and down and rolling in situ.

Anyway I am sure you could have a pro check it out.

 

[RyanOShea]

I obviously know nothing about the subject. However I am wondering if the quality of the metal used in minting declined during the war? might explain the magnetic properties. Wear and tear might account for the weight loss. The worn edge is unusual to me. Seen plenty of old coins but none worn like that one. To be worn like that I reckon it might have been stuck somewhere, like in a car door, sitting vertical and jumping up and down and rolling in situ.

Anyway I am sure you could have a pro check it out.

I thought of that too. But. if they added a magnetic metal. There is zero record of it. none of the metals they used in a war nickel are magnetic whatsoever. The manganese metal is what they use in the new dollar coins. Silver is a no brainer. Copper we all know is not magnetic. Though, it does have some strange properties. If you drop a magnet through a copper tube. It will fall slowly to the bottom. So..I dunno. Its possible that maybe, there was some cross contamination of the steel pennies to some war nickels? I dunno. Either way. This nickel is unlike any I have ever seen. And I have some badly worn nickels. The mix of these metals I also know do not bond together very well. They had some trouble with them as I understand. So your guess is as good as any.
Always thought it was strange they made steel pennies due to needing the copper for the war. But used it in the WAR era nickel.

 

[homefires]

Magnesium content should have been 9%.

It may have been more in that one and that is why it is the way it is.

A regular War Nickel does not show to be Magnetic.

That one does.

Maybe it had to much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium