New Member, First Post, River Find Of Pipe (help date) Petrified Bone and Flint

BOOTY HUNTER

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Hello fellow treasure hunters. My name is Jim and this is my first post. Hope the pics are placed right. I just found this site while researching some of my other finds and I'm glad I did. I am currently living in Kansas but I have lived allover and I hunt for treasure everywhere I go.

I have hunted for treasure my whole life and I don't limit myself to just one way or style of hunting. I metal detect, scuba dive, surface hunt, dig, I go to auctions, estate sales, flea markets, etc. I hunt and collect about anything vintage to ancient.

I love all archeology and I collect artifacts from all cultures. I try to go surface and metal detecting on ancient sites as often as possible.

I was very fortunate to have parents that are in to treasure hunting, digging bottles, antiquing, finding Indian artifacts etc. So I was born in to this way of life and have a knack for finding things because of that. My parents exposed me to this "sickness" that I don't mind having. I usually keep everything I find but in the future I plan to open my own web site to sell off some stuff and about half of the site will be a museum. You know, for things I could never bring myself to get rid of.

I have permission to hunt a an old Fort which I hunted in the summer of 1993 and I found 10, 5 gallon buckets of locks, blacksmith made axe heads, U.S. tent stakes, buckels, bottles, etc. in about 4 hours. It is packed and I plan on going back this spring or summer. I will show you my finds.

I went surface hunting on a river today and I found some interesting things (but not my best). In this area you can find bones that are from the last ice age and older. Even ancient human bones are found as well as Paleo tools and Clovis Points. If you are lucky you can find Bison skulls and mastodon teeth. The last picture is of a Bison tooth.

Here is what I found:
Petrified Bones
A Bone Trigger Awl
Flint Flakes Flaked by Man
Trade Era Pipe (Kaolin Clay) (found Nov. 2nd same spot)
Bison Tooth

Here is the Trigger Awl. This was used as a tool for many purposes but the most interesting is knapping flint in to tools and projectile points. I have found several of these but this one is real nice because of its age, It is petrified. It also shows wear from use on the trigger and the tip. These were held in the hand with the first two fingers on the triggers and the thumb on top which allowed for a great amount of pressure and leverage.
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Here are other petrified bones that I found today. Many of these are from extinct animals and mammals. I find these often and sometimes they show cut marks from being butchered by ancient man. The University of Kansas has an awesome museum of these bones and artifacts of ancient man.
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Here are some flint flakes and chips that are the bi product of knapping flint into tools and projectile points. All show working and flaking by man and two could have been lancets. The triangle shaped one is a broken unifacial knife made from a flake (most likely paleo). There are also two dark brown bone points.
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Here is a find from the same spot that I found Nov. 2nd. This is a Trade Era Kaolin (china clay) pipe. I have dug these before but I usually don't find them in the river. This is broken, the stems are originally long. Indians however did intentionally break the stems to use as beads in a necklace and this was found just below an Indian site I am hunting.

I am trying to date this pipe. I know it is older because most in the 1800's were just molded heads with reed stems. This one has an older shaped bowl. I have a book titled "Indian Trade Relics" which has this exact pipe with the same bowl and elbow and it dates it to mid to late 1600's and another book dates it to exactly 1620. Both books state that it is European made, which the older ones are. Are there any pipe experts out there who would know the exact date of production? I hope the books are correct because that is very early for almost any trade relic around here (Kansas). That is between the time of The Spanish (Coronado) and the French fur traders. It sure does have the age, patina and wear on it to be from the 1600's.

I would greatly appreciate any feed back or knowledge anyone has on this pipe, thanks.
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This is an extinct Bison tooth
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I look forward to sharing treasures, finds, knowledge, ideas and having fun with all of you.

Thanks
Jim
 

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First Off Welcome. Look forward on seeing your post. Next, have you thought about making a sifter and digging around that area? If you are finding stuff like that it maybe worth trying. I would also hit it with the metal detector. Is the river down? There seems to be a lot of sand/gravel. Well nice job. Take care!

Your Friend,

Steve in Michigan
 

Welcome to TNet and congrats on your nice assortment of finds. Love the Indian artifacts, fossils, and flint. :thumbsup:

HH
 

Welcome to TNET. Enjoyed the story :thumbsup: Keep us posted on your future finds!
 

yardqueen said:
Welcome to TNET. Enjoyed the story :thumbsup: Keep us posted on your future finds!

Thank You, glad to be with like friends here. I see your from SW FLA. , I was born in Ft. Myers and try to get down there whenever I can. I will be be posting a lot of good stuff soon.
Jim
 

Welcome to TNET BH. Good place to visit and great people here. Nice pics. Good luck on your next hunt.

john
 

Congrats BOOTY HUNTER on the nice finds and welcome to T-net :thumbsup:

G1
 

Steve in Michigan said:
First Off Welcome. Look forward on seeing your post. Next, have you thought about making a sifter and digging around that area? If you are finding stuff like that it maybe worth trying. I would also hit it with the metal detector. Is the river down? There seems to be a lot of sand/gravel. Well nice job. Take care!

Your Friend,

Steve in Michigan
Thanks for the welcome. My net post will be good, I promise. I am going to make a sifter for this site and hide it there so I can use it anytime without hauling it. I am planning a camping trip there to be able to look and dig all night long and probably for a couple days. Yes, the river is down low from now until spring so I will be taking advantage of that and detecting too. It's a great place to look nd the river cuts into very old layers of earth so you never know what you will find.

Thanks
Jim
 

rtde3 said:
Welcome to T-net! Lots of good folks on here!
Nice batch of finds you got there! I like seeing Indian artifacts!
Hey, with a name like Booty Hunter you need one of these shirts! ;D
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,202750.0.html

Thanks, Indian artifacts are my thing. I checked out the shark pit artifacts and love'em. You got some excellent stuff yourself. That is a Very Cool Shirt, I like it !!! I will have to get one of those from you. I didn't know they existed. Did you do the art work ? Good luck Hunting

Thanks
Jim

Thanks
Jim
 

Welcome to Tnet Booty!

You have a really great array of finds there and you seem very knowledgeable as well :thumbsup:

I look forward to more posts/pics from you for sure!! Keep up the good work bro!
 

CanadianTrout said:
Welcome to Tnet Booty!

You have a really great array of finds there and you seem very knowledgeable as well :thumbsup:

I look forward to more posts/pics from you for sure!! Keep up the good work bro!
Thanks Man. Glad you like to stuff. I am so impressed with this forum and the good people on here. I am looking forward to fun and interesting times on here and going on hunts with other near by members.
Thanks
Jim
 

Hey Jim, welcome and great finds. Was there any mastodons in the area during the ice age? and have you found any teeth or bones? The pipe is great and I am also an indian artifact junkie. If you have the chance I am sure I am not the only on here who would like to see a few pics of the locks you dug at the fort. Awseme first post.
NJ Marty
 

WELCOME NEW MEMBER. YOUR POST WAS SUPER. AND THE PICTURES WERE GREAT. MAY YOU HAVE A GREAT 2009. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

I pretty much know where you hunt, will probably run into you some time....good finds I work in E KS
 

First of all Welcome to T-Net. Very nice finds and nice pictures :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

rjw4law said:
I pretty much know where you hunt, will probably run into you some time....good finds I work in E KS
Thank You, Glad you like them. I don't think it is the same spot your thinking of as I have never seen another person there since I started going there in 1999. It takes some work and a good 4X4 to get there. If you do run into me though, come down and get a beer. I will be the guy hunting BBQing and probably fishing at the same time.
Hope to see you soon....
Jim
 

NJ Marty said:
Hey Jim, welcome and great finds. Was there any mastodons in the area during the ice age? and have you found any teeth or bones? The pipe is great and I am also an indian artifact junkie. If you have the chance I am sure I am not the only on here who would like to see a few pics of the locks you dug at the fort. Awseme first post.
NJ Marty
Thank You! Yes, there were mastodons, wooly mammoths, bison, saber tooth cats, giant sloths, huge beaver and a lot more. As far as finds from the fort go, I will have to show those in a later post as I just moved and they are boxed up in a storage unit. I might be able to find two of the locks I found there because I have them displayed on one of several very old split cedar fence posts that I got at the same location. I will look.
Thanks a lot
Jim
 

you definitely have some very nice finds there....Matt
 

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