I find allot of lil flakes here and there but mainly I do it just to get away from the city and to relax and remember my fallen brothers. I started taking some vets that came back with PTSD from the military like my self an they are digging it it's good therapy. I will be heading to fresno this week with family but I will find a day to go to San Juaquin river and do some slucing I will let u know how it gos.