No more "all metals" for me. Subtitles below.........

[ztzzt]

No more "all metals" for me. Subtitles below.........

"Beer cans at 12+ " Boy that is fun with a gardening tool from Ace Hardware!
"Don't tell me this dog won't hunt". It finds everything.

Yes, I am new. Yes, I have never done this before. Yes, this Ace 250 is a kick a$$ machine. Yes, I am having a hard time and found 2 pennies today and enough pull tabs to start my own cannery. I will not last long at this digging everything I find as most have suggested. I tried hunting in the jewelery mode and it was better but I am quickly learning that the trashy area around the lake I am hunting on to not listen to anything but a bell tone. When you hear a bell tone, it will probably be a beer can at 12". (Could not believe it went that deep). Am thinking about selling this thing and getting one of those high dollar units that has a learning curve of about 2 years.

If anybody reads this that is close to Hawkins, TX and has been doing this awhile give me a call at 903.769.3146. All comments and suggestions welcomed.

 

[eric in ks]

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Get away from the lake. Hit some front yards and get a feel for the machine. Good luck, Eric

 

[iamwood]

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You will have the same problem with any machine you use. Try going to more secluded areas, or to people's yards. Don't give up.

 

[TreasureTales]

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Most folks think they can pick up a detector for the first time and have it all figured out and find a Rollex watch on their first swing. That ain't gonna happen. It takes practice and patience. Find an area that is less trashy for your first few times out. Try a bark box at a park, playground, or school. Experiment with different settings and with different KNOWN items (bury a pulltab, a quarter, and a few other things and then listen to the tone when you swing over them...bury them about a foot apart). This is a great hobby and from what people say, the Ace 250 is a good machine. Keep asking questions, and reading posts made by those members here who use the Ace 250. You're going to get the feel for the machine if you just give it some time. Good luck, and welcome to TreasureNet.

 

[texan connection]

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Hi I'm not real close to Hawkins (probaly 4 hrs). I also use the ace 250 I have dug my share of flat beer cans, they will always sound like a coin, I dont think you can do much about that. I also have that problem with bottle caps, but have been noticing them jump around a bit on the readout between coins and Iorn, It dependes on where I'm hunting on what sounds I dig, I usally hunt in coin mode, or jewelry. In a ghost town I hunt in relic and dont dig Iorn, on a beach I dig everything. I likely have missed some Gold rings and no doubt a slew of nickles, but dont want to dig every pull tab in a city park either. I have also noticed myself getting better predicting the target over the last few months with my ace by watching the display b-4 I dig. and No doubt the bigger coil has helped alot I hope that helps, Dont get discuraged, I dug only modern pennies dimes and quarters (and lots of junk) this week, Then pulled a indian and a seated 1876 dime in 20 miuntes last night in a sidwalk dig. mostly its about finding that right place, but even then You just dont know. I hope that helps.

 

[Southcacalaky]

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Patience learn your machine well and it will pay off, Good Luck HH Art...

 

[TheSleeper]

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when u were learning to drive u didn`t go to indy,
when u were learning to swim u didn`t jump into the middle of the ocean,
when u first met someone u didn`t go right to the alter,

Anything that is important takes time, md`ing is no exception.
Start slow learning what ur new machine is trying to tell u, make a test garden, 10`x 10` area bury severial items both junk and good, plot out which is which on a piece of paper, but leave it inside, go out and study what ur machine is saying to u. Then go inside and check ur sheet and see how correct u were.

If u don`t have the area to make a test garden as others have suggested get u a 1/4 " sheet of plywood lay severial items on the ground lay the plywood over them then use ur machine see how many u can id.

I know its easy to get frustrated, BUT by learning ur machine first it will be easier in the long run. I just got my SE today, charging the battery now, other then taking her outside to make sure she is working ok i prob wont even use her for the next week as i take that time to study and re study everything i can about her, settings, sounds etc. Yes i know when i first start using her I am going to dig alot of junk and what not`s but each time i`ll write down what it was and try my best to remember what she said to me, both signal wise and sound wise. Its a learning curve, plain and simple.

U can do it, best of luck

 

[lonewolfe]

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LOL!

 

[Alchemy]

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Welcome to the forum…

I’ve only been detecting for a very short while but sounds to me like good news, bad news…someone that's been detecting longer may verify this too...I dunno

The bad news is yeah you’re digging a lot of cans and junk. What a pain eh! The good news is, it sounds to me like no one really detects there much or some of that trash would be gone already (We hope other detectors would get rid of it) or at least it would be on the surface anyway.

Ok, so you go through a lot of junk and then “bingo”, you hit something really nice.

Here’s another semi bad news deal…gold can and will ring like foil or a pull tab…yes in deed it stinks if you don’t dig it up and ya miss it.

The other things is, cans are big. When I swing my detector over a can I figure it’s gotta be a can because it gives me tone for too large of an area. That took me a few times out and learning my machine to realize this. Although, I still dig everything.

Think cans are bad, wait till you get to an area where people have done alot of shooting.
Talk about drive ya nuts. When you get a lot of ammo casings there really is no way of telling what’s there until you dig them up. Then they’re harder than snot to find in the dirt because of the oxidizing of the brass, they turn dirt brown.

So, the storal of the mory…err, moral of the story.
You can go to another area until you really know your machine well, and then try the junk area again later.
Or, you can stay there and dig everything (and clean the area better for yourself too…for future detecting)
And, get a pinpointer…I just got mine and haven’t had a chance to use it yet, but I know it’s going to be a blessing for me in my ammo and trashy area where I found my large cent!

So, don’t bother to spend more on another machine, the Ace 250 is a very good one. If you want to spend more on something, get a pinpointer and a really good digging tool (knife/spade with serrated edge for cutting roots)

Better days are ahead!

 

[Snee]

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Welcome to the forum and good luck!

 

[thadious]

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Welcome to the forum and may I say dont go spending more money yet. You cannot become an expert overnight. Take your time, learn your machine. Post questions on the forum there are self proclaimed experts and many of them really are, who are willing to help you get through the beginning of your learning curve and I do mean beginning. I have been doing this for 8 months now and can really say that you will be learning and improving each time you go out to hunt. It is a never ending learning curve but a fun and rewarding one. When I started I couldn't even find a pull tab but after lurking on the net learning from others and practicing as often as I could I started finding coins and even jewelry. I am nowhere near an expert but have found that practice, practice and practice makes you better each time. Good luck, dont give up and happy hunting. Thad

 

[ramjet2187]

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As the others have said, welcome aboard. DON'T sell that machine yet.

Get a digging tool designed for metal detecting. A garden tool from the hardware store is made for digging in tilled soil. Not compacted, never been turned dirt. There are countless sites on the Internet that sell such items..........

When you were digging that 'can/coin' what did the display tell you? Coin at 4 inches? (for example). After digging 4 inches, did it still tell you 'coin at 4 inches?' That's a good sign its LARGER than a coin, and likely DEEPER than the display is telling you. If you get a signal that reads 'anything' at 'blank' depth, and after digging that deep, and then some, and the readout hasn't changed, you've almost certainly found something that is close to what the machine would recognize as a coin (for example), but at a greater depth, so the machine can't tell for sure.

I hunt Civil War relics........belt buckles are VERY desireable..........I once dug a 'buckle' at 4 inches that turned out to be an axe head at something like 14 inches (the length of my arm from my palm to my elbow). But my machine (MXT) kept insisting 'buckle' at 4 inches...........

My advice, dig everything. But within reason. After digging 8 inches for a 'coin' at '4 inches', you can be reasonably sure that it's something bigger, and leave it (gonna get some replies with that advice). I don't doubt the abilities of the Ace 250 (Santa got one for his little digger, and he's itchin' to give it a test run), but I don't think you're going to find many coins at 12 inches with the standard coil. (I'm sure to ignite a firestorm from the de-hard 250 fans).

Get that thing out to a less trashy area (swimming lakes/beaches are notorious for picnic trash......) and learn how to use it. Parks, especially around playgrounds/swing sets are good places to find rings and coins. "Momma, push me on the swing!", and poof, goes the wedding ring. I've found LOTS of wedding rings around swing sets (just let one of my ancient secrets go). Remember though, to dig rings, you can't discriminate out pull tabs ............but they do sound different.

You'll figure it out. After all, you were smart enough to buy a great machine, and visit the greatest metal detecting site in the Internet! .

Sorry for the LONG post. Hope it helps.

Roger

 

[Karma Guy]

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Welcome to the best forum on the net. There is tons of help from a lot of great people here, just ask and you'll be rewarded with free advice. I have one of the more expensive detectors and even that unit takes time to get to know what it's telling you is in the ground. If you don't want to put in the hours to hunt then I'd suggest some other hobby. There will be days that you hunt for hours and pull nothing up, and then you'll hit a spot and in 10 minutes pull an old coin or nice ring. Keep checking the posts and read what everyone else is doing and soon you'll learn the ways of hunting. Keep with it and you'll be rewarded.

Best of luck.

KG

 

[Dick from IA]

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Quite often with the beer cans, the signal sounds good, but the depth indicator will jump around and not lock on. Same thing with screw caps.

Don't sell the Ace 250 short; it's my main detector & my back up one sells for 4 times as much, if that tells ya anything.

Good Luck; and remember, it's just a hobby

DFIU

 

[ringfinder]

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Hi,
Well I guess I'll add my 2 cents. I have a ACE 250 and have been using it all year long. I also have 5 other detectors, including a Whites XLT, Mine Lab Sovereign, Fisher 1235, DepPro Headhunter and a Tesoro Tiger Shark.

I don't care what detector you use, you are going to find BEER CANS AND BOTTLE CAPS. The hardest thing you have to do is LEARN YOUR DETECTOR! The other day I was out hunting with some of my buddy's and I started to hunt and told them well I guess I'll dig this beer can out so I won't have to dig it the next time. Guess what it was a 1863 Two Cent Piece. I don't care who you are, if you think you know what you are going to dig, you must have x-ray eyes. I know the detector sort of tells you what you are going to dig. But let's face it, it doesn't know if it is a silver dollar or a beer can or a dime or a something else the same size.

For those who say the ACE 250 won't go very deep, sometimes your right. But how deep do you guys need to go to find great items. I mean do you need to dig to China, I DON'T THINK SO! Most coins in my area, which is in Ohio, are 2,4,6,8, 10 inches deep. Most of the coins I have been digging here lately are at a depth of 4 inches.
When it reads 4-6 inches deep I dig it, no matter what the heck I think it might be.

You might try looking at some of the old area's in your area. Look at old maps in the Library or museum. Look and see what the land looked like before all those new homes went up around you. Get out in the country side and look for some ghost town and if you do find some, get permission from the land owners. There are tons of places to look, try looking at the Western & Eastern Treasure Magazine. It has some of the best articles around for metal detecting.

Hope this helps some, by the way I'm including a couple of pictures of a find of mine, that was around 12 inches in the ground. I do use a SunRay Probe on my ACE 250 and I use the regular coil that came with my detector!

HH, Ringfinder, P.S. I, like everyone else in here digs a ton of junk each year and everytime we go detecting.

 

[davesx]

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Hi,z.
chill out man,read these replies carefully, theres alot of good advice here.
if you'er not finding trash you won't find the good stuff.
where there are people they will throw down trash and lose rings, cash etc.
so keep swinging,keep digging learn your machine.
from all accounts it's as good as any other.
most of all don't give up.

HH, dave.

 

[Night Stalker]

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Welcome to the forum Z - nice story and some excellent quality pictures! Looking forward to your future finds - the ACE seems to have made a name for itself.

P.S. I'd be careful about posting my # on the net - these are good people here at TNet, but you never know who may surf in.......

 

[mech]

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LOL!

Ditto. and welcome to the hobby

 

[Ricardo_NY1]

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My advice........at the cost of a possible forum whooping.......lol.......put your 250 in coin mode and discriminate nickels. There goes 80% or more of the pulltabs you'll dig up. Do what everyone else here said about depth readings/logic. I'm totally against all metal at first. I've been through two detectors so far, and I would've gone nuts digging every reasonable signal in all metal mode in the parks I hunt in, especially with my first detector. Discriminate, get a few coins in your pocket that will build up a little confidence and take it from there.

 

[diggummup]

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Don't worry after a few hundred hours out "in the field" you'll get the hang of it.Just as others suggested,try getting the hang of it in a less "trashy" area.Also,anytime you discriminate,you risk the chance of passing up a "good" find.It'll come to you,all in due time! Good luck and H.H.-diggummup