Nothing but a button. Still a good day

[Greylock]

Haven't been out too much lately been busy. I went out for an hour or so to an old road that came into town. The woods are really bad from an ice storm a few years but I managed some clad and this button. 5 on the front and nothing on the back. Any info on this? Thanks








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[CMDiamonddawg]

Ironically your button looks like a Fifth Regt. of Foot , British Regt . fought in The Battle of Bunker Hill in Boston then moved up to Fort Niagara and Great White North .. July 4th 1776 Not sure where you are from which would be great if everyone listed a home State info in their profile Very Nice dig & more than just a button it's a piece of Rev War History !

dawg

 

[CASPER-2]

thats a beauty !!!

 

[Greylock]

Wow! That makes my day a little better. I'm from western ma. Thanks for looking

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[CRUSADER]

Nice Rev War Button

 

[ticm]

That's a beauty for sure.

 

[Greylock]

Thanks for helping me get started on that. Just didn't know where to start so I just figured it was a reg old button. Now I'm really happy. My oldest piece so far

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[CC Hunter]

The button appears to be a pewter button of the manufacturing style more often associated with those of American Continental troops. The large integrally cast pewter shank, smaller size face, prominent mold seam, and simple Arabic type numeral, all point towards what is frequently seen with our Continental buttons from the American Revolution. British Loyalist buttons of the period, and those of British Regulars, usually have other distinctive features in pewter, tombac, and brass, such as (but not limited to) pie crust style border designs, iron wire shanks (on pewter), etc..

Interestingly, according to the listings in Military Buttons of the American Revolution by Don Troiani, the 5th regiment buttons of both the Continentals as well as British Loyalists & Regulars, display a Roman numeral 5 (V) rather than an Arabic 5 as we see on this unusual example. The stylization of what I'm noticing in this particular numeral 5 on the button above, with the proportionately large looping semi-circle bottom and very short tilting top bar, is very indicative of what is seen in other Arabic numeral 5 depictions of Colonial era. Quite possibly this particular button, may be a variety previously unrecorded or unknown, of the 5th Continental Regiment. There is a known example of the 25th Continental Regiment button in pewter, and the numerals are Arabic, displaying a 5 of very similar shape and style.

Considering the potential rarity of an unknown variant coming to light, certainly warrants forwarding information and photos of this particular button to the leading experts on the subject.

CC Hunter

 

[kieser sousa/rip]

Nice !

 

[Iron Patch]

I agree it seems more American than British, but could be one you never get 100% definitive answer on if nothing matches. Not the conclusion that most would want to here, but actually pretty cool possibly having the only one. But as I said it seems much more American to me so I wouldn't be surprised if the gurus call it that. Just because something is not in a book does not mean it does not exist! I've personally brought two versions of Rev War buttons to the attention of Don Troiani that he had never seen before. (British 3rd Foot guards) So you never really know what will turn up!


PS: It could easily be neither American or Brit. 5th of Foot. If so it's strange to be where you found it, but this is metal detecting and crazy things can happen.

 

[CRUSADER]

Thanks for helping me get started on that. Just didn't know where to start so I just figured it was a reg old button. Now I'm really happy. My oldest piece so far

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You should be, it's an extremely rare button & you may never beat it. Seems to be more lead in the mix than the usual pewter which explains the better than average condition - in fact amazing condition.

 

[Papa Bear]

Well done!!

 

[hogge]

GREAT FIND!!!! I think you may live close to me. I'm in Pittsfield. This may be a Banner find! Don Troiani's contact info is easy to find (I think it's "chainshot"). I highly recommend you contact him with pics of this button. I would say 5th Continental Army. CONGRATULATIONS! HOGGE

 

[Bunker]

Awesome, I hope to find some colonial stuff soon. Heading up to Williamsburg, Va area at the end of the month.
Congrats,
Bunker

 

[Iron Patch]

GREAT FIND!!!! I think you may live close to me. I'm in Pittsfield. This may be a Banner find! Don Troiani's contact info is "chainshot@aol.com")

 

[Greylock]

I sent an email to Don this morning and just received a reply. The button is an 5th continental infantry 1776-77. Thanks all for your help and suggestions

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[WolfmoonX]

I sent an email to Don this morning and just received a reply. The button is an 5th continental infantry 1776-77. Thanks all for your help and suggestions

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Does he know of any other examples to compare it to? I have been searching since I first saw this thread and can only find pics of the "V" variant.

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

Fifth Continental Inf. Regt .. nice one should of known because I did find a Second Continental .. and a Rare Thirteenth Cont., and more than likely the 5th British Regt of Foot would have been less crude with a rope border at least I was correct with Rev. War .. I'm glad you found nothing but a button and I bet your laughing about your thread title CMD

 

[Greylock]

He just said there will be a few coming with his new book and there are some variants of this button. If he has anymore info I'll let you know

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[hogge]

That is an excellent find. If you weren't so new to T-NET I would recommend for banner. I think it is deserving, and maybe they changed the criteria with the new owners. I'll give ya a banner vote! Nice avatar. Is that Pontoosuc Lake looking north to Greylock?? I'll send ya a PM. Hogge