old colonial silver coin finds What are they?

[jamesbibb]

I found these recently looking for information on them
Thanks

 

[BuckleBoy]

Well, the last one is spanish for sure.

 

[allen]

might puty them on the cob forum also !
I think that is what its called

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

might puty them on the cob forum also !
I think that is what its called

Not cob, they are pieces of 8. 8 Reale coins or Spanish Milled Dollars were often broken up into 8 pieces, or bits. When Thomas Jefferson was forming the US Mint they were going to use this system for our coinage. Each bit was worth 12.5 cents. They decided on metric instead for the US mint, with 2 bits equal to a quarter, a phrase that is still used today.

 

[Mackaydon]

The Carlos III coin (1759-1788) is 1/2 real if 16 mm, 1 real if 20mm and 2 reales if 26 mm in diameter. The legend reads:
CAR III D.G.HISP.ET IND R. If a "+" ,mark follows the 'R', then it's a 2 reales. I don't see the '+' mark and the image appears too big for a 1/2 real; so guessing it's a 1 real.

Also, double the radius of the top coin and use the 'mm' figures above to determine what is the denomination of the coin.
Don.......

 

[nova treasure]

Not cob, they are pieces of 8. 8 Reale coins or Spanish Milled Dollars were often broken up into 8 pieces, or bits. When Thomas Jefferson was forming the US Mint they were going to use this system for our coinage. Each bit was worth 12.5 cents. They decided on metric instead for the US mint, with 2 bits equal to a quarter, a phrase that is still used today.

Yep, that's what they are. There has been several found at a site that I have been hunting over the yrs.

Great Finds

Nova Treasure

 

[mainer]

Nice coins! Congrats.

 

[Mackaydon]

On the obverse at the top of the Carlos III coin it reads "VTRA QUE VNUM"; Latin for "both are one", meaning that both worlds, the Americas and Asia/Europe shown on the two crowned globes, are in reality one world. The reverse legend in part reading "CAR III D. G. HISPAN ET IND" is Latin for "Charles III (the Spanish King) By the Grace of God King of Spain and the Indies" (Indies being the original name of the American discovery by Columbus).
Don.......

 

[timekiller]

Top two are Pistareens!
This site will explain it all and show pics. of them.The middle one with the whole is the earlist type! Fig 18 on this site shows it!Did you dig them or buy them?
Forgot to give you the site sorry

http://data.numismatics.org/cnl/Pistareens.pdf

 

[jamesbibb]

the last one is a 1 reale then
what about the holed coin I have never seen the design before
its about the size of a quarter

 

[jamesbibb]

they were all dug from the same site

 

[timekiller]

the last one is a 1 reale then
what about the holed coin I have never seen the design before
its about the size of a quarter

Check the site above fig 18

 

[timekiller]

they were all dug from the same site

Very nice digs then and I'd burn the coil up on that site not to mention a few batteries

 

[jamesbibb]

So then that coin dates to early 1700?
WOW

 

[timekiller]

So then that coin dates to early 1700?
WOW

 

[jamesbibb]

Thanks everyone!!

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

Dig anything that is even close to a beep

 

[jamesbibb]

will do for sure

 

[Mackaydon]

I tend to believe the Carlos coin is from Lima, Peru.
The assayer, LM, isn't Mexican or from Spain, but Lima had one with these initials during this period.

 

[timekiller]

I tend to believe the Carlos coin is from Lima, Peru.
The assayer, LM, isn't Mexican or from Spain, but Lima had one with these initials during this period.

Agreed! Milled pillard type!