One just NEVER knows. Any lead experts out there?

[WHADIFIND]

Snow, ice, cold everywhere. A broken pipe that needed to be dug up. Look what I found.

Just thought I'd share.















Did they ever have a bullet called a "fatty" ? LOL

Looks like I've got some digging to do when it warms up.

Thanks for stopping by.

 

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[WHADIFIND]

You have some good information. I have the W. Reid Mckee and M.E. Mason Jr. book on CW projectiles, which is helpful but it still take experience in Iding projos.

Just curious; what, exactly, do you do once you have nailed down the "exact" ID. What does that actually do, for you personally I mean.

Thanks for the posting.

 

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[mangum]

Awesome bullets, looks like there may be some real potential right below your feet!

Per your comments- I like to know exactly what I've found. It helps to tell the whole story of a site. Cannonball guys tips are all good ones. He takes time to help a lot of members here as well. I have a passion for history & also preserving it. An example- I found 2 "cannonballs" & nailed down that they were actually howitzer shells from the Revolutionary War. I found the inventory of what the regiment had a week before they camped at this site. They had 2 howitzers with them! Also through my research I found out that my 5th great grandfather enlisted there with the artillery regiment. Does that make me pompous? If I had just sat them on a shelf & not investigated I would've never found that great connection. I'm baffled at why you seem offended by those who have fun saving history & learning about what they find...

 

[WHADIFIND]

Awesome bullets, looks like there may be some real potential right below your feet!

Per your comments- I like to know exactly what I've found. It helps to tell the whole story of a site. Cannonball guys tips are all good ones. He takes time to help a lot of members here as well. I have a passion for history & also preserving it. An example- I found 2 "cannonballs" & nailed down that they were actually howitzer shells from the Revolutionary War. I found the inventory of what the regiment had a week before they camped at this site. They had 2 howitzers with them! Also through my research I found out that my 5th great grandfather enlisted there with the artillery regiment. Does that make me pompous? If I had just sat them on a shelf & not investigated I would've never found that great connection. I'm baffled at why you seem offended by those who have fun saving history & learning about what they find...

Why thank you for the 1 line response about my post! They are all appreciated!

"offended by those who have fun saving history & learning about what they find."

Not sure what you read or where but there is no indication of that in anything I've ever said in my life! Let alone here.

Firstly, someone would have SERIOUSLY work at getting me offended. Let me tell you, it's tough to do!
If there is a small issue in any of this for me it's the brow beating involved in trying to force someone else to either go buy something to give a "precise" measurement. Then, back it up by telling them that if they are too cheap to do that for the glory of Relic Diggers and Collectors everywhere, well, then.....

I have given and received much in the way of help in identifying something I've found, here. It's, in part, why I keep coming back. The expertise of this site is ABSOLUTELY incredible!!! Albeit a little cold sometimes.

I have the utmost respect for the knowledge here.

So, you can unbaffle yourself. There is NO offense taken here.

 

[Pointman]

Just curious; what, exactly, do you do once you have nailed down the "exact" ID. What does that actually do, for you personally I mean.

Thanks for the posting.

I've only IDed a few finds, but seems the more I read, the more it opens my eyes up to the sophistication that was around during those times. I spent a number of years in artillery as a Forward Observer and Cannon Crewmember and specifically handling ammunition and it amazes me how a lot of the same technology that we use today had some rudimentary form of it 150 years ago.

Specifically, they say that 80% of the causalities are caused by artillery and it was hard for me to believe until I experienced it first hand or handle and see rounds such as grapeshot. I remembered learning artillery and it was surreal to realize that I had the potential to kill people from miles away with a piece of steel that I was carrying in my hands. While I was on active duty we fired a number of 105mm rounds into a forest for 5 minutes as quick as we could (approximately 5 rounds a gun with timed fuses) and we completely leveled the forest. Reminded me of the 80's movie called the "Predator" where they have the "mad minute" with their machine guns. 100+ year old trees were splintered to pieces. Bad news to try and take a artillery battery with a frontal assault.

To sum up this long winded message, it amazes me that people are evil when it comes to ways of designing things to maim or kill and in reading and studying and seeing different, old projectiles, the war making business has been the same for centuries.

 

[WHADIFIND]

I've only IDed a few finds, but seems the more I read, the more it opens my eyes up to the sophistication that was around during those times. I spent a number of years in artillery as a Forward Observer and Cannon Crewmember and specifically handling ammunition and it amazes me how a lot of the same technology that we use today had some rudimentary form of it 150 years ago.

Specifically, they say that 80% of the causalities are caused by artillery and it was hard for me to believe until I experienced it first hand or handle and see rounds such as grapeshot. I remembered learning artillery and it was surreal to realize that I had the potential to kill people from miles away with a piece of steel that I was carrying in my hands. While I was on active duty we fired a number of 105mm rounds into a forest for 5 minutes as quick as we could (approximately 5 rounds a gun with timed fuses) and we completely leveled the forest. Reminded me of the 80's movie called the "Predator" where they have the "mad minute" with their machine guns. 100+ year old trees were splintered to pieces. Bad news to try and take a artillery battery with a frontal assault.

To sum up this long winded message, it amazes me that people are evil when it comes to ways of designing things to maim or kill and in reading and studying and seeing different, old projectiles, the war making business has been the same for centuries.

Very interesting! It seems that you identify along the same reasons I do. To learn. Not so much "how to" but "what". I do not have the experience of the violence that so many have had to endure. So, I sort of attempt to understand by finding out what things are and why. I remember when I was a kid and I saw what a lowly 22 rifle did to the body of a small bird. (not by my hand). Then, in school, they showed me a civil war bullet. I was shocked!

Here we are, supposedly an enlightened populace of the modern times and we are still slinging lead at one another. Oh, I know, it's just a necessary part of the world we've created. Still.

Let me take a moment to thank you for your service. I had a brother who did so too. (lost him to P.T.S.D. , couldn't handle the horrors he brought back with him from Vietnam.)

I am just curious about what people do with the knowledge they uncover.

Thanks for the sensitive and considered response.

 

[treblehunter]

Sorry for your loss of your brother.
I love your finds and how you found them (ha ,to think you were plumbing)

 

[WHADIFIND]

Sorry for your loss of your brother.
I love your finds and how you found them (ha ,to think you were plumbing)

Thank you kindly, on both accounts.

Yeah, plumbing. You know I immediately got out my screen and started sifting! LOL Unfortunately, this might have just been a fluke. Didn't turn anything else up that would indicate anything. Maybe somebody lost part of collection when building the house, or maybe before it was here. I'll keep looking.

Thanks again.

 

[Pointman]

I've been through a lot, but I can't imagine what the folks felt going through Vietnam. Sorry about the loss of your brother. Thanks for the encouraging words.