One last Thanks, Matt!

[umrgolf]

Well you asked me to take care of the stuff, so I went out and got a display box just for the three days of fun you allowed me to have Hope I can put you guys on some nice stuff in my area

Finds from 1/14, 1/15, & 1/19​

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trying to i.d. this piece in "What is it?" http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,378611.0.html​

14K gold bar (customized 2nd Lt shoulder bar )​

my piece measures 31mm as opposed to the standard 35mm​

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Here's what the standard 2nd Lt. shoulder bar looked like​

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1830 halfdime​

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1850 halfdime​

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Civil war, soldier-made sinker​

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[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

Looks Great !!

Keep @ It and HH !!

 

[Woodland Detectors]

You really owe this guy!


J/k Great display Jeff.

 

[MaineRelic]

A great display case of precious history and memories . MaineRelic

 

[VOL1266-X]

Looks good Jeff!! Not bad for a hunted out site. With the F75s, there's no such thing as a hunted out site. Get a piece of red flannel or velvet to put under the relics in the box. That makes the coins and bullets stand out. HH, Quindy.

 

[umrgolf]

A great display case of precious history and memories . MaineRelic

Bingo.. In the future, everytime I look at the case, I'll relive those 3 hunts love this hobby

Looks good Jeff!! Not bad for a hunted out site. With the F75s, there's no such thing as a hunted out site. Get a piece of red flannel or velvet to put under the relics in the box. That makes the coins and bullets stand out. HH, Quindy.

great idea Quindy

You really owe this guy!


J/k Great display Jeff.

you got that right, Mike

Looks Great !!

Keep @ It and HH !!

thank you Mud

 

[mlayers]

Those are some nice relics you found. Yea they would look great with red under them......Matt

 

[umrgolf]

Those are some nice relics you found. Yea they would look great with red under them......Matt

agreed, gonna try it out!

 

[peanut]

That looks real good, makes me want to go back to those spots and dig some more! I know we(you) did'nt find all of it. When you get back from Russia you'll have to come back down here and try out your new F75.
Take care,
Matt

 

[umrgolf]

That looks real good, makes me want to go back to those spots and dig some more! I know we(you) did'nt find all of it. When you get back from Russia you'll have to come back down here and try out your new F75.
Take care,
Matt

Im confident that you will be posting some more great stuff from that site Looking forward to future hunts!

 

[texjim]

Do you think that gold bar could be a money clip? Nice job.. Tex

 

[chukers]

This is what the gold bar reminds me of... but I could not find any reference tot hem ever being mad of metal especially gold!




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_bar

 

[umrgolf]

Do you think that gold bar could be a money clip? Nice job.. Tex

don't think so.. it seems too small and from what I keep hearing, the opinions seem about 50/50 on whether its a military bar or a piece of women's jewelry

if you look closely at the engraving, there is no symmetry (old) seems likely that it was part of a plow-scattered 1850's cache with the rest of the silver coins that have been found in this field

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[umrgolf]

This is what the gold bar reminds me of... but I could not find any reference tot hem ever being mad of metal especially gold!




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_bar

to me it resembles a 2nd Lieutenant's shoulder bar more than anything.. During the Civil war they were made of cloth and sewed onto the uniforms, but this seems like something that might have been worn by a wealthy individual

after emails to 3 different CW experts, they all agree that it appears to be military, but none of them had seen anything like it.. so it will likely go unsolved.

 

[chukers]

This is what the gold bar reminds me of... but I could not find any reference tot hem ever being mad of metal especially gold!




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_bar

to me it resembles a 2nd Lieutenant's shoulder bar more than anything.. During the Civil war they were made of cloth and sewed onto the uniforms, but this seems like something that might have been worn by a wealthy individual

after emails to 3 different CW experts, they all agree that it appears to be military, but none of them had seen anything like it.. so it will likely go unsolved.

Is it the same size of a ribbon bar? I know there were some longer.. but these on wiki are all the same size.

 

[umrgolf]

This is what the gold bar reminds me of... but I could not find any reference tot hem ever being mad of metal especially gold!




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_bar

to me it resembles a 2nd Lieutenant's shoulder bar more than anything.. During the Civil war they were made of cloth and sewed onto the uniforms, but this seems like something that might have been worn by a wealthy individual

after emails to 3 different CW experts, they all agree that it appears to be military, but none of them had seen anything like it.. so it will likely go unsolved.

Is it the same size of a ribbon bar? I know there were some longer.. but these on wiki are all the same size.

It measures approx 31mm

 

[chukers]

This is what the gold bar reminds me of... but I could not find any reference tot hem ever being mad of metal especially gold!




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_bar

to me it resembles a 2nd Lieutenant's shoulder bar more than anything.. During the Civil war they were made of cloth and sewed onto the uniforms, but this seems like something that might have been worn by a wealthy individual

after emails to 3 different CW experts, they all agree that it appears to be military, but none of them had seen anything like it.. so it will likely go unsolved.

Is it the same size of a ribbon bar? I know there were some longer.. but these on wiki are all the same size.

It measures approx 31mm

I looked up the shoulder bars and found this... I think you are more right than I am I bet it had to be a dress uniform or something.


http://books.google.com/books?id=sN...ook_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBw


Look at page 30 and 31

 

[umrgolf]

This is what the gold bar reminds me of... but I could not find any reference tot hem ever being mad of metal especially gold!




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_bar

to me it resembles a 2nd Lieutenant's shoulder bar more than anything.. During the Civil war they were made of cloth and sewed onto the uniforms, but this seems like something that might have been worn by a wealthy individual

after emails to 3 different CW experts, they all agree that it appears to be military, but none of them had seen anything like it.. so it will likely go unsolved.

Is it the same size of a ribbon bar? I know there were some longer.. but these on wiki are all the same size.

It measures approx 31mm

I looked up the shoulder bars and found this... I think you are more right than I am I bet it had to be a dress uniform or something.


http://books.google.com/books?id=sN...ook_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBw


Look at page 30 and 31

Wow, I think you just nailed it.. That design seems very close....

The last couple sentences of the first paragraph on pg. 31 explain it precisely.

"Then you couldn't tell a second louie from an enlisted man-that is, unless you failed to salute him. So in 1917 the Army finally got around to giving him a gold bar- something the Confederacy had done for its shavetails just 55 years earlier!"

... and this came from a Confederate camp.

 

[chukers]

This is what the gold bar reminds me of... but I could not find any reference tot hem ever being mad of metal especially gold!




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_bar

to me it resembles a 2nd Lieutenant's shoulder bar more than anything.. During the Civil war they were made of cloth and sewed onto the uniforms, but this seems like something that might have been worn by a wealthy individual

after emails to 3 different CW experts, they all agree that it appears to be military, but none of them had seen anything like it.. so it will likely go unsolved.

Is it the same size of a ribbon bar? I know there were some longer.. but these on wiki are all the same size.

It measures approx 31mm

I looked up the shoulder bars and found this... I think you are more right than I am I bet it had to be a dress uniform or something.


http://books.google.com/books?id=sN...ook_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBw


Look at page 30 and 31

Wow, I think you just nailed it.. That design seems very close....

The last couple sentences of the first paragraph on pg. 31 explain it precisely.

Well if it is that my first ID ever!... I am shocked... Usually others find it before me.... any way here is the clip... and you know as well as I do that designs varied... different manufactures and different sides made things differently... just look at all the sword plate belt buckle designs... so many different ones. that could explain it all.

Chukers

 

[chukers]

Oh BTW that book has alot of great reference material and illustrations for future uses!

Chukers