Point I.D help

[Tnmountains]

I have never been sure exactly what type this is. I dug it some years ago from a shelter in Alabama that produced some dalton bases and Kirks and it always just ends up in my stemmed section. Thought maybe heavy duty but do not have any like that with "big square base" and weak shoulders. I find adena but it just does not fit... maybe it is. I am in the south east. Thanks for any help and if you have one like it post it up if you want to. Thank you.

 

[1320]

Scottsbluff.....Bakers Creek?

 

[SOHIO]

I think its an archaic stemmed point

 

[theviking]

Adena-Robins?

 

[Tnmountains]

I really am clueless. I used to think adena robbins heavily sharpened would give the weak shoulders but not that base ?

Viking I was typing this when you replied

 

[SOHIO]

I dont think its adena

 

[SOHIO]

I;m still gonna say late archaic stemmed

 

[theviking]

I've seen a few typed as Adena-Robins with a squared base.. But they might have been wrong, a few show up on a google search that are similar, but It's not quite right.

 

[Tnmountains]

I;m still gonna say late archaic stemmed

I am open to anything. What would you type it as?

 

[old digger]

From my perspective it appears to have been reworked along the blade. As to being a Adena/Robbins or ScottsBluff, that is difficult to access due to it's reworking. From my observations, Adena/Robbins points have a slightly longer shoulder notch than a ScottsBluff. Of course I my be wrong. Also my assumption that ''most'' older paleo points that have a more rounded point were more likely used as a knife. This assumption is based on actual butchering of game. It is much more easier to skin and proceess game with a round pointed knife , than with a sharp point that is more likely to poke holes into a hide that would otherwise be used as clothing, ''You would not want a bunch of holes to have to sew back up.'' Also it is much more logical and easier for a pointed object to penetrate an animal than a rounded point.
I am assuming that your find was possibily a reworked point that was used as a knife, and the tip has further damage, perhaps in the prosessing of large game (cutting between two bones).

 

[GatorBoy]

For what its worth.. it looks like a resharpened Scottsbluff type I to me. The type one often had a random flake pattern and is older than the type II that usually has a pronounced horizontal flaking pattern.

 

[GatorBoy]

 

[Tnmountains]

I had not considered that as Scottsbluff is not a type I am used to finding. But from what you are showing it matches better than Adena. Here are bases of some Adenas I found. Not really a match. Old Digger the cuts on my hand are from a sharp tool skinning a deer yesterday.So I get you on being to sharp. Did not know I was cutting myself. I was glad to have super glue. So I was further South than I normally hunt and maybe it was more common there. It is the only one then I think I have ever found.

Adena bases from my area.

 

[GatorBoy]

Nice pieces there... yeah that other is no Adena in my opinion. Nice hand by the way..Mabey you should start using a stone blade. "Back strap" Its what's for dinner.

 

[Tnmountains]

Its hanging for 5 days then it is grill time.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

I don't think it's a Scottsbluff because it doesn't have the fine flaking that Scotties have. I also don't think Adena either. I tend to agree with SOHIO that's it's a late Archaic Stemmed Point.

 

[dlos]

According to Overstreet if this was found in the southern half of Alabama it could either be a Columbia (Woodland) or a Kirk Stemmed (Early-Mid Archaic).

If found in the northern half of Alabama, Overstreet has it as an Adena-Robbins (Late Archaic to Woodland), maybe a Kays (Middle Archaic to Woodland) or very used up Little Bear Creek (Late Archaic to Woodland).

Take your pick from the above based on which half of Bama is was picjed up. I'd guess if Southern AL - Columbia and if Northern - Adena-Robbins or Kays.

 

[IlliniGuy]

I also think this is a late Archaic piece. If I found it in Illinois I would probably call it Kramer. I do love the Dover flint.