RelicHunter97
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- Western Massachusetts
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Hello everyone!
I havent been posting much as of late, and that is because my picture editing site closed down (but a new one just like it has shown its face yay!) and my laptop has had problems with uploading pics from my SD card. Anyways that's all sorted out so I can resume posting!
I spent Saturday-Wednesday at cousin Bob and Norma's house, so I could help them clean out their attic/basement, as well as metal detect, bigfoot hunt, swim in their pool, and pick blueberries. But anyways - metal detecting.
On Saturday Bob and I headed up to this field that has produced several large cents and old coppers, as well as old relics. He believes that there was a house there, and I do as well. Things were going slow, since he and his other detecting buddy had thoroughly hit that place 4 times, and it isn't a tilled field
But we kept on swinging. He found a button and i found some junk, and and old brass whatzit, then he calls me over to get my camera ready - he was getting a signal bouncing from 75-85 on his White's XLT Spectrum, and it was solid. So I got my camera ready, and he started to dig - and dig - and dig - until we were about a foot down, and we see the edge of a jar. So now we're really getting excited! Since I'm on my knees on the ground, I take the digger and start carefully digging out the jar, to find that its empty. We were disappointed, but the signal was strong as ever. So we kept digging until we had a pit a foot in diameter, and about 18 inches in depth. We decided to give up on that one, but we promised that we would go back there to retrieve it someday.
Fast-forward to Tuesday. So Bob and I had our sights set on a fairly large cellar hole in the middle of the woods, which along with it had stone walls, what was left of a huge barn, and its own cemetery. We were expecting big things from such a big place, the occupants of which must have had big money, but were we suprised when it was very quiet. All I managed to squeeze out of it were a base for a pillar candle, a steel/iron knife, a hitching rod, an oxen shoe, some whatzits, the front of an old leather slipper, and not much else. We were disappointed, but we are going to go back in the late fall when the underbrush is gone, because there was A LOT of fern there.
After we got finished up there, we went back to his house to make a dump run, because we took a bunch of stuff from the attic and one section of the basement. We had several bags of trash and lots of tools and such (rakes, shovels, hoes, etc), and we were expecting the fee to be out there, but it was a pleasant suprise of $20. Once we got that taken care of Bob had to do some chores around the house (that was like an hour-hour and a half) then we finally got back out. We headed over to his school friend of over 40 years' house, because Bob said that John had lost a chain out in his field some years ago, and he wanted Bob's help to find it. So we headed over, and we got to looking. We spent a good 30 minutes searching, but it was difficult because of the corn stalks and the electric fence. We did manage to get some old relics though, and I did find a piece of a chain, just one from the 1800s xD.
When we finished we showed John what we found, and then we headed to a field that John owns just down the street, which contains the cellar hole of a 1760's tavern. Unfortunately, the grass was about 3 feet high, so we went further down the road, and we saw a field that was approx. 250 feet behind the cellar hole. We were over an hour late for Norma's "deadline" (whatever :P) so we were planning to do one pass out, and one pass back. We got nothing on our pass out, but on our way back, I got a signal, initial reading was 85, then dropped to 60-65. It was a solid signal, so I dug it. Bob figured things were going slow, so he might as well watch. Before I go on, I wanted to say that I didn't have my camera with me (couldn't find it, I had put it down somewhere at 3:00 in the morning after we got back from bigfoot hunting and couldn't remember where). So continuing on, I dug it, and in the plug I see the edge of a large copper, and I say "Its a large copper!" and he says "No way!" At this point it had been several months since I had found one. So I start to take it out, and it falls out of the plug in a clump of dirt. I pick up the clump and start taking the dirt off, and I can sort of see a bust, and I recognized the ribbons in the hair, and came to the conclusion that it was one of the Georges. But at this point I didn't know if it was a KGII, KGII, a Connecticut copper, a Vermont copper, or something else. This was two minutes after Norma called, telling us we needed to get home, but we slowed our pace on the way back to the truck. In addition to that, I found an iron disc-thing with the number 719 on it, about 5" in diameter.
After we got back, I headed straight for my iPod to look up KGIII halfpennies, but it wasn't my coin. Similar, but not my coin. Then I scoured Bob's Redbook of U.S. Coins (2011) and I found the closest match under "Machin's Mills and other U.S. Made imitations" or something like that. There were three groups of coins in this category, group 1 being made in NYC, group 2 also in NYC, but under different people (including Ephraim Brasher, famous for his doubloon of the same name), and group 3 made at the famous Machin's Mills. My coin falls under group 2, and would have been dated 1787. What led me to make this call was the chin, under the lip it curves in, then has a horizontal line as it goes out to form the chin, making an oddly shaped indent above the chin, and the example in the book had the same feature, which I couldn't find anywhere else. If anyone has any information or insight into this, please let me know. I will also be posting this coin in the What Is It? forum.
Thanks for reading and happy hunting!
-Anthony
(P.S. I have outrageously edited the last pic to try to bring out detatil in the bust)
(P.P.S There is an approximate 35 degree die rotation)
I havent been posting much as of late, and that is because my picture editing site closed down (but a new one just like it has shown its face yay!) and my laptop has had problems with uploading pics from my SD card. Anyways that's all sorted out so I can resume posting!
I spent Saturday-Wednesday at cousin Bob and Norma's house, so I could help them clean out their attic/basement, as well as metal detect, bigfoot hunt, swim in their pool, and pick blueberries. But anyways - metal detecting.
On Saturday Bob and I headed up to this field that has produced several large cents and old coppers, as well as old relics. He believes that there was a house there, and I do as well. Things were going slow, since he and his other detecting buddy had thoroughly hit that place 4 times, and it isn't a tilled field
But we kept on swinging. He found a button and i found some junk, and and old brass whatzit, then he calls me over to get my camera ready - he was getting a signal bouncing from 75-85 on his White's XLT Spectrum, and it was solid. So I got my camera ready, and he started to dig - and dig - and dig - until we were about a foot down, and we see the edge of a jar. So now we're really getting excited! Since I'm on my knees on the ground, I take the digger and start carefully digging out the jar, to find that its empty. We were disappointed, but the signal was strong as ever. So we kept digging until we had a pit a foot in diameter, and about 18 inches in depth. We decided to give up on that one, but we promised that we would go back there to retrieve it someday.Fast-forward to Tuesday. So Bob and I had our sights set on a fairly large cellar hole in the middle of the woods, which along with it had stone walls, what was left of a huge barn, and its own cemetery. We were expecting big things from such a big place, the occupants of which must have had big money, but were we suprised when it was very quiet. All I managed to squeeze out of it were a base for a pillar candle, a steel/iron knife, a hitching rod, an oxen shoe, some whatzits, the front of an old leather slipper, and not much else. We were disappointed, but we are going to go back in the late fall when the underbrush is gone, because there was A LOT of fern there.
After we got finished up there, we went back to his house to make a dump run, because we took a bunch of stuff from the attic and one section of the basement. We had several bags of trash and lots of tools and such (rakes, shovels, hoes, etc), and we were expecting the fee to be out there, but it was a pleasant suprise of $20. Once we got that taken care of Bob had to do some chores around the house (that was like an hour-hour and a half) then we finally got back out. We headed over to his school friend of over 40 years' house, because Bob said that John had lost a chain out in his field some years ago, and he wanted Bob's help to find it. So we headed over, and we got to looking. We spent a good 30 minutes searching, but it was difficult because of the corn stalks and the electric fence. We did manage to get some old relics though, and I did find a piece of a chain, just one from the 1800s xD.
When we finished we showed John what we found, and then we headed to a field that John owns just down the street, which contains the cellar hole of a 1760's tavern. Unfortunately, the grass was about 3 feet high, so we went further down the road, and we saw a field that was approx. 250 feet behind the cellar hole. We were over an hour late for Norma's "deadline" (whatever :P) so we were planning to do one pass out, and one pass back. We got nothing on our pass out, but on our way back, I got a signal, initial reading was 85, then dropped to 60-65. It was a solid signal, so I dug it. Bob figured things were going slow, so he might as well watch. Before I go on, I wanted to say that I didn't have my camera with me (couldn't find it, I had put it down somewhere at 3:00 in the morning after we got back from bigfoot hunting and couldn't remember where). So continuing on, I dug it, and in the plug I see the edge of a large copper, and I say "Its a large copper!" and he says "No way!" At this point it had been several months since I had found one. So I start to take it out, and it falls out of the plug in a clump of dirt. I pick up the clump and start taking the dirt off, and I can sort of see a bust, and I recognized the ribbons in the hair, and came to the conclusion that it was one of the Georges. But at this point I didn't know if it was a KGII, KGII, a Connecticut copper, a Vermont copper, or something else. This was two minutes after Norma called, telling us we needed to get home, but we slowed our pace on the way back to the truck. In addition to that, I found an iron disc-thing with the number 719 on it, about 5" in diameter.
After we got back, I headed straight for my iPod to look up KGIII halfpennies, but it wasn't my coin. Similar, but not my coin. Then I scoured Bob's Redbook of U.S. Coins (2011) and I found the closest match under "Machin's Mills and other U.S. Made imitations" or something like that. There were three groups of coins in this category, group 1 being made in NYC, group 2 also in NYC, but under different people (including Ephraim Brasher, famous for his doubloon of the same name), and group 3 made at the famous Machin's Mills. My coin falls under group 2, and would have been dated 1787. What led me to make this call was the chin, under the lip it curves in, then has a horizontal line as it goes out to form the chin, making an oddly shaped indent above the chin, and the example in the book had the same feature, which I couldn't find anywhere else. If anyone has any information or insight into this, please let me know. I will also be posting this coin in the What Is It? forum.
Thanks for reading and happy hunting!
-Anthony
(P.S. I have outrageously edited the last pic to try to bring out detatil in the bust)
(P.P.S There is an approximate 35 degree die rotation)
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