Possible Native American Artifacts?

Sha0512

Tenderfoot
Mar 5, 2024
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Long Island, NY. Suffolk County
Primary Interest:
Beach & Shallow Water Hunting
Hi all. I appreciate your feedback in advance!! I found these interesting “rock like” items on the North Shore of Long Island , on a beach. I know there were 13 Native American tribes on the island at one point, so thought I’d investigate. Thank you again! DEFD6D22-8956-41BF-B796-730319A6A6B5-2469-00000473C90BB867.jpegA3286FCA-E77F-493E-9052-1DFB7F46E86E-2469-00000473C99B6A70.jpeg3B32B956-CECC-40DD-A516-CE69E9C0394B-2469-00000473C9ECB567.jpegEDF5ECAE-A40B-40F8-A4F3-CFAE12F4A6DB-2469-00000473CA34EDD4.jpeg0D91B2C0-0DA4-422A-A1F7-9305BA10873A-2469-00000473CA887ACC.jpegA575541E-9800-4AC7-8455-B783854045BF-2469-00000473CAD5D26E.jpeg5E2202AE-A49A-46B5-8A88-5C4DD0C0B526-2469-00000473CB270EAC.jpeg4264AAF9-371D-4F51-A511-2BFDDF6CD134-2469-00000473CB67724F.jpegD84C6FB8-1B6F-4E3A-836B-E2F785972A78-2469-00000473CBB6FF26.jpeg9A9D2BD3-8AA5-49D3-BE8B-D8FA0593C302-2469-00000473CC03252A.jpeg25B695EF-E795-4739-8ED3-9B4542C4C90E-2469-00000473CC55A5C1.jpeg14B4C976-4002-44B0-9DFB-241B0C029825-2469-00000473CC9DDD9C.jpeg3EDA1238-120F-4D3A-B003-9F5CDD7C0C76-2469-00000473CCD61AEB.jpeg
 

Hi Sha0512,
Welcome to the "Show"!
Nice find...Being on the beach with a history of native indians...what I believe you have are a collection of:...Native American Stone Fish Weights, Fish Net Weights and possible Thumb Scrapers.
These items are becoming more and more a valuable collector's item!

Native Fish Weight.jpg


Native Fish Weight 2.jpg
 

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Hi Sha0512,
Welcome to the "Show"!
Nice find...Being on the beach with a history of native indians...what I believe you have are a collection of:...Native American Stone Fish Weights, Fish Net Weights and possible Thumb Scrapers.
These items are becoming more and more a valuable collector's item!

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Thanks so much Robot!! I don’t brush aside something as just a rock here on Long Island. Something said take them, and research! It’s fun but can be somewhat frustrating! You’ve given me fantastic information and I appreciate it!! Funny thing is- I was looking for sea glass 😂
 

Thanks so much Robot!! I don’t brush aside something as just a rock here on Long Island. Something said take them, and research! It’s fun but can be somewhat frustrating! You’ve given me fantastic information and I appreciate it!! Funny thing is- I was looking for sea glass 😂
Best finds are sometimes made when one is only looking for sea glass!
 

Hi all. I appreciate your feedback in advance!! I found these interesting “rock like” items on the North Shore of Long Island , on a beach. I know there were 13 Native American tribes on the island at one point, so thought I’d investigate. Thank you again!View attachment 2135533View attachment 2135534View attachment 2135535View attachment 2135536View attachment 2135537View attachment 2135538View attachment 2135539View attachment 2135540View attachment 2135541View attachment 2135542View attachment 2135543View attachment 2135544View attachment 2135545
Thanks so much Robot!! I don’t brush aside something as just a rock here on Long Island. Something said take them, and research! It’s fun but can be somewhat frustrating! You’ve given me fantastic information and I appreciate it!! Funny thing is- I was looking for sea glass 😂
About how heavy are they typically?
 

Hi Sha0512,​

b. Net sinkers​


Ancient American Indian Tools come in all shapes and sizes along with weights.

Most here are looking for holes or string marks to verify authenticity, but this is not always the case.

I know when I was a boy, we used whatever we could find for fishing, washers, nuts and any rock we could tie a fishing line around...I imagine early americans without Cabela's used stones also that worked.

It is in the eye of the beholder...some call Mount Rushmore...just a rock!



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Hi
My eye saw a very similar comparison on these two

Fishing line sinker or net weight/sinker​

Smithsonian
National Museum of the American Indian
New York
Alexander Hamilton U.S. Custom House
One Bowling Green
New York, NY 10004

Culture/People possibly Multiple archaeological cultures (attributed), including Late Archaic and Woodland Traditions

Previous owner University of Vermont

Object Name Fishing line sinker or net weight/sinkerMedia/MaterialsStoneTechniquesFlaked/chippedObject TypeHunting/Fishing/WarfarePlaceColchester; Chittenden County; Vermont; USA

Date created3000 BC–AD 1600 (Late Archaic to Late Woodland period)Collection HistoryCollection history unknown; formerly in the collection of the University of Vermont; acquired by MAI through an exchange with the University of Vermont in 1917.

Catalog Number6/5798

See related itemsMultiple archaeological culturesHunting/Fishing/Warfare

Contact UsHave a concern, a correction, or something to add? Contact us: https://nmai.si.edu/collections-statement

First stone is: Sha0512
Second and third stone is : Smithsonian?

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Native net weight.jpg


Native Net Weight 2.jpg
 

Hi
My eye saw a very similar comparison on these two

Fishing line sinker or net weight/sinker​

Smithsonian
National Museum of the American Indian
New York
Alexander Hamilton U.S. Custom House
One Bowling Green
New York, NY 10004

Culture/People possibly Multiple archaeological cultures (attributed), including Late Archaic and Woodland Traditions

Previous owner University of Vermont

Object Name Fishing line sinker or net weight/sinkerMedia/MaterialsStoneTechniquesFlaked/chippedObject TypeHunting/Fishing/WarfarePlaceColchester; Chittenden County; Vermont; USA

Date created3000 BC–AD 1600 (Late Archaic to Late Woodland period)Collection HistoryCollection history unknown; formerly in the collection of the University of Vermont; acquired by MAI through an exchange with the University of Vermont in 1917.

Catalog Number6/5798

See related itemsMultiple archaeological culturesHunting/Fishing/Warfare

Contact UsHave a concern, a correction, or something to add? Contact us: https://nmai.si.edu/collections-statement

First stone is: Sha0512
Second and third stone is : Smithsonian?

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yes indeed...and a perfect example of pareidolia too!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

 

Hi
My eye saw a very similar comparison on these two

Fishing line sinker or net weight/sinker​

Smithsonian
National Museum of the American Indian
New York
Alexander Hamilton U.S. Custom House
One Bowling Green
New York, NY 10004

Culture/People possibly Multiple archaeological cultures (attributed), including Late Archaic and Woodland Traditions

Previous owner University of Vermont

Object Name Fishing line sinker or net weight/sinkerMedia/MaterialsStoneTechniquesFlaked/chippedObject TypeHunting/Fishing/WarfarePlaceColchester; Chittenden County; Vermont; USA

Date created3000 BC–AD 1600 (Late Archaic to Late Woodland period)Collection HistoryCollection history unknown; formerly in the collection of the University of Vermont; acquired by MAI through an exchange with the University of Vermont in 1917.

Catalog Number6/5798

See related itemsMultiple archaeological culturesHunting/Fishing/Warfare

Contact UsHave a concern, a correction, or something to add? Contact us: https://nmai.si.edu/collections-statement

First stone is: Sha0512
Second and third stone is : Smithsonian?

a575541e-9800-4ac7-8455-b783854045bf-2469-00000473cad5d26e-jpeg.2135538


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yes indeed...and a perfect example of pareidolia too!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

 

Hi
My eye saw a very similar comparison on these two

Fishing line sinker or net weight/sinker​

Smithsonian
National Museum of the American Indian
New York
Alexander Hamilton U.S. Custom House
One Bowling Green
New York, NY 10004

Culture/People possibly Multiple archaeological cultures (attributed), including Late Archaic and Woodland Traditions

Previous owner University of Vermont

Object Name Fishing line sinker or net weight/sinkerMedia/MaterialsStoneTechniquesFlaked/chippedObject TypeHunting/Fishing/WarfarePlaceColchester; Chittenden County; Vermont; USA

Date created3000 BC–AD 1600 (Late Archaic to Late Woodland period)Collection HistoryCollection history unknown; formerly in the collection of the University of Vermont; acquired by MAI through an exchange with the University of Vermont in 1917.

Catalog Number6/5798

See related itemsMultiple archaeological culturesHunting/Fishing/Warfare

Contact UsHave a concern, a correction, or something to add? Contact us: https://nmai.si.edu/collections-statement

First stone is: Sha0512
Second and third stone is : Smithsonian?

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Robot, you’ve been extremely helpful, I appreciate your input and effort.!
 

Original post pictures are just natural rocks formed by mother nature, natural erosion.
 

Keep looking Sha so far just like others have said they are naturally formed rocks by the ocean tumbling water and polished by the sand. You still might get lucky some do hunt beaches and find stone tools. I hunt creeks
 

I am a bit confused?...Are not Native American Stone Artifacts....formed rocks?
 

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