Re-Write Mound Building (No Arrowheads)

[uniface]

[Trigger Warning:] The mere mention of Grahm Hancock's name is a dog whistle that sets the guardians of orthodoxy off. But ask yourself if you knew even 10% of the information he provides in the linked article about early mound building in North America. If the answer's "no," then leave the eggs in the fridge and the rotten tomatoes in the garden. Fair enough ?

From what remains we can begin to gauge the extent of the loss and by 2012, despite the destruction of ancient sites, archaeologists had identified as many as 97 surviving mounds and earthworks in the Lower Mississippi Valley, with several others found as far afield as Florida, thought to be in the range of 5,000 years old. Very few of these sites have yet been subject to radiometric dating, but of the 16 that have, with a combined total of 53 mounds and 13 causeways, all are more than 4,700 years old — and many are much older than that . . .

The Banana Bayou Mounds and the so-called LSU Mounds (because they are on the grounds of Louisiana State University) date to around 2700 BC, which, in a global context, makes them about 200 years older than the Great Pyramid of Giza. After that, the mounds of the Lower Mississippi Valley just keep on getting older. We’ve already spoken of Lower Jackson Mound (3955 to 3655 BC). Here are some of the others:


WATSON BRAKE
One C-14 date suggests that mound-building may have begun as early as 3590 BC; others suggest a range of 3400 to 3300 BC.


CANEY MOUNDS
C-14 dates range from 3600 to 3000 BC.


FRENCHMAN’S BEND
C-14 supports a date of 3570 BC.7 A significantly older date of 4610 BC—almost 7,000 years ago—was derived from an excavated hearth.


HEDGEPETH MOUNDS The earliest mound date is 4930 BC—again, very close to 7,000 years ago.


MONTE SANO
A charcoal sample from a cremation platform within one of the mounds yielded a date of 4240 BC.10 Two other charcoal samples from a small platform mound produced dates of 5030 to 5500 BC11—moving past 7,000 years ago and toward 7,500 years ago.


CONLY
Eight radiocarbon dates securely locate the site between 7,500 and 8,000 years ago.12,290

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[joshuaream]

What's the trigger warning for? Louisiana's Archaic phase mound/earthwork construction is really well documented, and accepted by most mainstream archaeologists. Hancock's "ancient one world mother culture" theories are fiction, but the sites he has visited are solid sites. (The theory is basically that one mother culture planted technological seeds in several places around the globe, and things like earthworks, pottery, etc are examples of this ancestral race. The theory of a single intelligent point of origin has played out in books, movies, tv shows Star Trek, etc.)

Watson Brake was probably last controversial 30 some years ago when it was proven to be significantly older than Poverty Point. There are some similar sites in the Everglades without great dates, and bunches in flood plains in South America. One of the thoughts is that the knowledge of building up home sites evolved into building up significant sites covering acres. Lots align with the sun, a small but relatively significant portion of people seem to be inherently gifted at mathematical logic. (Not necessarily Einstein/Newton level, just smart people who find geometry easy & intuitive.)

Huaca Prieta down in Peru. What are the odds that some of the oldest earthworks (older than Watson Brake) happen to be built directly on a 14,000+ y/o site? Not good, but if you happen to be in a resource rich area of a desert, it probably increases the chances. (Gault is another example of an extremely old site with dozens of layers of paleo, archaic and recent material directly over pre-Clovis stuff.)

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

No arrowheads....moving on..nothing to see here.

JK

 

[Earl Barnett]

Why insult a person, he has a good level of writing.

 

[Tesorodeoro]

Why insult a person, he has a good level of writing.

It appears there was some kidding going on here (4 years ago!). “JK” = Just Kidding”

Uniface is a missed contributor here.
Maybe pulling this thread out of the cobwebs will prompt him to poke his head in here.

 

[Tesorodeoro]

[Trigger Warning:] The mere mention of Grahm Hancock's name is a dog whistle that sets the guardians of orthodoxy off. But ask yourself if you knew even 10% of the information he provides in the linked article about early mound building in North America. If the answer's "no," then leave the eggs in the fridge and the rotten tomatoes in the garden. Fair enough ?







https://exploringrealhistory.blogspot.com/2020/10/part-8-america-before-key-to-earths.html

I enjoyed watching Randal Carlson sharing his questions and theories about geology and the development of mankind. I don’t know that his theories are widely accepted, but I think it’s healthy to have an open mind and listen to people offering alternative ideas.

 

[ToddsPoint]

Greg Perino dug mounds on Al Godars property near the IL River and found them to be middle archaic, around 5,000 yrs old. The side notched points he recovered were named “Godar” points.