recent finds in Mo.

[diggerfororo]

I haven't been doing any hunting this year until last week. We have had over 20 inches of rain this month here in north central Mo. I went to check a very prolific site and found the dike around this field was broken and the north end was washed very bad. There was beans planted and most were washed out and left a mess. I ask the farmer if I could go down and look around and he said to have at it. I am sure glad that I did because there was flint exposed everywhere. The washed area was about the size of half a football field. I didnot take pictures of all the pieces I recovered but there was over 50 pieces. Most were broken and there were lots of big chips. I found 3 pieces of pottery with one having a twisted rope pattern. It is rare to find pottery shards in this area.

Les

 

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[diggerfororo]

Here is a closer pix of a nice Hidden Vally point. To bad the tip is broken.

Les

 

[Neanderthal]

Looks like a helluva Hopewell site you're on. I would be very interested in seeing the pottery sherd designs up close. Stamped? Applique?

 

[The Grim Reaper]

I agree. It looks like a very nice Woodland site you are hunting.

Congrats on your finds and thanks for sharing the pictures.

 

[diggerfororo]

Looks like a helluva Hopewell site you're on. I would be very interested in seeing the pottery sherd designs up close. Stamped? Applique?

Thanks guys. This site has been producing for over 50 years. I started hunting there in about 1956 and have found points from clovis up to mississippian culture. The most prolific point seems to be hopewell like you said. This site is in a creek bottom and covers at least 20 acres. It seems that this site was used for a very extended time. Here is a pix of the pottery schard and another one I cleaned up .

Les

 

[Cannonman17]

Wow, great site! Interesting pottery, if you could find enough to reconstruct one from that period you would have something worth a little bit of money there-

 

[Neanderthal]

Sonofagun... just what I was expecting to see. That's Hopewell pottery (Cooper Zone stamped), some of the rarest pottery there is. I've been looking most of my life for a whole piece, they're more rare than a straight politician. I have the majority of two different Cooper Zone Stamped vessels, in about 50 shards. To put things into perspective, fewer complete examples have been found of them than Mississippian Head Pots. We have a complete Havanna Zone Stamped where I work, and it's one of my favorite pieces.

Zone Stamped (especially Cooper) often has those characteristic "nodes" at the top, sometimes more than one row of them. They are made by taking a stick and poking from inside the vessel to out. The upper portion of the jar is typically decorated by stamping and sometimes trailing or incising.

 

[diggerfororo]

Sonofagun... just what I was expecting to see. That's Hopewell pottery (Cooper Zone stamped), some of the rarest pottery there is. I've been looking most of my life for a whole piece, they're more rare than a straight politician. I have the majority of two different Cooper Zone Stamped vessels, in about 50 shards. To put things into perspective, fewer complete examples have been found of them than Mississippian Head Pots. We have a complete Havanna Zone Stamped where I work, and it's one of my favorite pieces.

Zone Stamped (especially Cooper) often has those characteristic "nodes" at the top, sometimes more than one row of them. They are made by taking a stick and poking from inside the vessel to out. The upper portion of the jar is typically decorated by stamping and sometimes trailing or incising.

Thanks for the info. I used to be up on all the tools and projectiles from the many cultures in my area but never really got into the pottery. The pickins are pretty slim in this area as far as pottery goes. I have found very few in comparison to other artifacts. The area I live is sorrounded by several great hopewell cultures, as we have the Grand, the Chariton rivers that run to the Missouri river. We also have Mussel fork. East and West Yellow creeks. All which feed to either the Chariton or Grand rivers. This makes for an ideal location of native American sites. I have been an avid collector for 50 plus years and have found many hundreds of artifacts. I have very few left due to a fire that destroyed my home a few years ago. Thanks again for the info and happy hunting.

Les

 

[Neanderthal]

I hunt the Grand / Neosho on a regular basis. I'm right below you in NE Oklahoma. Snyders Affinis abounds on the Grand / Neosho waterway, along with other Hopewellian types (Waubesa & Dickson). Are yall fixing to get hammered with this rain that's fixing to come through? We're still partially flooded down here and expecting more rain over the next couple days. The waterways haven't been to "normal" here in around 2 years and I'm thinking about putting on a pair of floaties.

 

[diggerfororo]

I hunt the Grand / Neosho on a regular basis. I'm right below you in NE Oklahoma. Snyders Affinis abounds on the Grand / Neosho waterway, along with other Hopewellian types (Waubesa & Dickson). Are yall fixing to get hammered with this rain that's fixing to come through? We're still partially flooded down here and expecting more rain over the next couple days. The waterways haven't been to "normal" here in around 2 years and I'm thinking about putting on a pair of floaties.

Hammered is an understatement !!! our streams have been bank full or out all month. It rained again from noon till about 4. We are slated for more rain tomorrow. I have to go to the V.A. hospital at Columbia in the morning for some tests.BLAH I would like to go back to this site on Mussel Fork again real soon before the weeds take over the washout.

Les