Reconstructed 160 year old crock $$$ SOLD! $$$ UPDATED Dec. 08

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Reconstructed 160 year old crock $$$ SOLD! $$$ UPDATED Dec. '08

Hello All,

I usually don't worry about broken stoneware or glass. To me, unless it's whole, it merely indicates that I'm close to the right spot for the real detecting to begin.

Last week when I was out with Rodeo and Bonzaibrandi, we found a few trash pits in the woods. There were some marked stoneware crocks there--all broken. Rodeo got a nice pottery spittoon too--most of it was whole. Anyhow, I collected all of the pieces to a few of these (they weigh a TON!), and decided I would cart the pieces home to try and reconstruct them for fun. After some research, and asking help from a few glass/pottery gurus, I began the reconstruction. This one was my first--and I believe it turned out quite well.

The crock is marked "J.H. Miller" "Brandenburg, KY"

This is a pretty rare stoneware storage jug made by James Miller, originally a potter in Strasburg, in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. He was born in 1814 and moved to Harrison County, Indiana in about 1837, after potting in Strasburg from about 1833-37. After moving to Indiana, he established his pottery just across the Ohio River in Brandenburg, Kentucky, where he operated from c1840-1884.

Pottery 001.webp

It's pretty fun to put all of the puzzle pieces together--and it is a very slow process to give the glue time to cure overnight after each piece. I also had to assemble it in advance without the glue, and make certain that I wasn't painting myself into a corner on being able to fit the last piece in. Then plan which piece to attach when in sequence so that they all fit.

I have a few more that I'll post in the future once they are glued together. One is a large butter churn, and it'll take Quite a while.

I wanted to post this in "Today's Finds" rather than "Bottles and Glass" so that it would be seen. I'm actually pretty proud of the way it turned out. If this topic is in danger of getting moved, I can also post a photo of a suspender clip, harmonica reeds, and a few other bits we found that day. :P

Treasure takes many forms.


Regards,


Buckleboy

UPDATE #1: I wrote to the auction house to inquire about the value of my reconstructed crock, and received this e-mail in reply:

Thank you for your e-mail. Your Miller crock is a very nice piece
except for its condition. We would still expect it to bring in the $500 to
$800 range. If you would like to consign it, please let us know and we would
be happy to include it in our November auction.

Best Regards,
Tony Zipp


That two dollar bottle of Elmer's Glue was well worth it. :wink: As was hauling all of the heavy pieces out through the woods. I'm still pretty amazed that this value is what it is--and can only think of what it'd be worth if unbroken... :o

Worth MUCH more than any coin I've ever found.
(I'm hooked on glass and stoneware now. :wink: )



UPDATE #2: The crock sold for an amount within the price range indicated above. :thumbsup: So I reinvested a bit of it back in the hobby with a 12 x 10 searchcoil for the uMax. ;D
I know that there were some folks that didn't feel that a "broken crock" belonged on the banner--but I was quite happy as I drove by the bank today. :wink:


Best Wishes and Happy Hunting,


Buckles
 

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Re: Reconstructed 120-160 year old crock-UPDATE!-Worth MORE than a Sword Belt Plate!

Hey BB, is there any idea on how many crocks that Miller turned out , or I guess what I'm wondering is how many are still around today? Very cool that a crock would be worth so much. You're the man...........
 

Re: Reconstructed 120-160 year old crock-UPDATE!-Worth MORE than a Sword Belt Plate!

Sell it I need to borrow a few bucks.

KFB
 

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redlined said:
Hey BB, is there any idea on how many crocks that Miller turned out , or I guess what I'm wondering is how many are still around today? Very cool that a crock would be worth so much. You're the man...........

I have no earthly idea...but perhaps the auction house can give me more information.
 

Re: Reconstructed 120-160 year old crock-UPDATE!-Worth MORE than a Sword Belt Plate!

Will this would make a huge contribution to the "Get Tom a New Machine Fund"

KFB
 

Re: Reconstructed 120-160 year old crock-UPDATE!-Worth MORE than a Sword Belt Plate!

BB, congratulations on a restoration that's as laudable and important as that done by another good treasure-fixer on the daguerrotype (tintype?) photo.

My hat's off to you, sir.

And I don't doubt for a minute that the beautiful crock would be worth upwards of $800 to a Miller collector. It's a treat for the eyes. They'd love it.
 

Re: Reconstructed 120-160 year old crock-UPDATE!-Worth MORE than a Sword Belt Plate!

Thank you all for your kind comments. The piece will be sent to auction this week. Auction date is July 19th.

It's been wonderful to have the piece on my shelf admiring it.


kindafoundabuckle said:
Will this would make a huge contribution to the "Get Tom a New Machine Fund"

KFB

Keep dreaming, buddy. :D Hey, cash in your CLAD and buy a Bounty Hunter from Wally Mart. :thumbsup: :D
 

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Awesome thats a really good deal!
 

Re: Reconstructed 120-160 year old crock-UPDATE!-Worth MORE than a Sword Belt Plate!

So I'm guessing this was a banner find and is not now? Not sure I understand that one.


-Buckles
 

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BuckleBoy said:
So I'm guessing this was a banner find and is not now? Not sure I understand that one.


-Buckles

Hey, you're right, Buckles. I didn't notice that your post was missing up top until you said something. I know the shielded nickel post got knocked off last week. And now Johnny's post finally made it up there. I think the criteria for making banner is not very exact science. But yours was up there for more than a few days...... ?? :icon_scratch: Maybe a mistake was made while inaugurating new banner spots.

Hope the Mods give you an explanation.
My '09 S Indian wasn't clean enough for banner, even though it's a rare find. That's what Marc told me. Probably the reason why he dropped the red-colored nickel post too. Then again, if someone finds a beat up 1792 Half Disme, will it make the banner if it is not cleaned?? LOL Not all coins come out of the ground in perfect condition, nor do rare bottles/pottery.

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan
 

Re: Reconstructed 120-160 year old crock-UPDATE!-Worth MORE than a Sword Belt Plate!

Wow , I lobbied for Johnnies Banner post. But I never thought it would bump a newer post rather than one of the older ones.
 

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MD Dog said:
Wow , I lobbied for Johnnies Banner post. But I never thought it would bump a newer post rather than one of the older ones.

I lobbied for Johnny's post as well--sent my Banner recommendation to the Mods, and posted to that effect in the thread.


Captn_SE said:
BuckleBoy said:
So I'm guessing this was a banner find and is not now?  Not sure I understand that one.


-Buckles

Hey, you're right, Buckles.  I didn't notice that your post was missing up top until you said something.  I know the shielded nickel post got knocked off last week.  And now Johnny's post finally made it up there.  I think the criteria for making banner is not very exact science.  But yours was up there for more than a few days...... ??  :icon_scratch: Maybe a mistake was made while inaugurating new banner spots.

Hope the Mods give you an explanation.
My '09 S Indian wasn't clean enough for banner, even though it's a rare find.  That's what Marc told me.  Probably the reason why he dropped the red-colored nickel post too.  Then again, if someone finds a beat up 1792 Half Disme, will it make the banner if it is not cleaned?? LOL  Not all coins come out of the ground in perfect condition, nor do rare bottles/pottery. 

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan

Thanks for your comment, Captn.  I thought that the Indian of yours was a FINE find for up top too.  But I understand that they like photos of easier objects to see in those small thumbnails.  I dunno.  I guess I'm a little soured on it now because it is my most valuable single find in 16 years--if it reaches the higher end of the projected sale price. 

Perhaps an explaination will be forthcoming...

I know that some folks were "upset that a broken crock made the banner," and I told these folks to PM the mods if they had an issue with it--since it was their decision--rather than bash my finds in other posts (no one spoke up in this thread, OR to me personally about their feelings before replying negatively about my find being on the banner in other threads!).  So perhaps the squeaky wheel got the grease? 

Regards,


Buckleboy
 

Re: Reconstructed 120-160 year old crock-UPDATE!-Worth MORE than a Sword Belt Plate!

I pretty much just ignore the banner anymore.

Nice repair job on the busted flower pot...when do we get the conclusion of the story, the final sale price?
 

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diamondjim said:
I pretty much just ignore the banner anymore.

Nice repair job on the busted flower pot...when do we get the conclusion of the story, the final sale price?

Auction is on July 19th, as per the email quoted above. I'm mailing the piece to them this week.

Regards,


Buckleboy
 

Re: Reconstructed 120-160 year old crock-UPDATE!-Worth MORE than a Sword Belt Plate!

In my mind, your crockery pot is still up on that banner, Buck! :thumbsup: :icon_sunny:

Kyle
 

Re: Reconstructed 120-160 year old crock-UPDATE!-Worth MORE than a Sword Belt Plate!

Banner yankers. I wonder what else they like to yank.....................

KFB
 

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kindafoundabuckle said:
Banner yankers. I wonder what else they like to yank.....................

KFB

Easy, buddy. I'm still waiting to hear back on what's going on.
 

Re: Reconstructed 120-160 year old crock-UPDATE!-Worth MORE than a Sword Belt Pl

Yeah, the banner has irked me a bit since I joined this site.... Since when does a Chinese coin worth $3 get a spot on the banner? Also, aside from the leather pouch with the letters in it, I can't recall an item on the banner that was not metal.... I thought this was a TREASURE site, not a metal-detecting site! Where are the arrowheads and pottery?!?! I just can't believe they pull down good and valuable finds while the Chinese coin is still under "Recent discoveries by our members."

Luckily I did not join t-net just to look at the banner.

And congrats again on the pottery, BB. After seeing a demonstration of what it takes to glue a tiny piece of pottery, quadruple kudos! You should post a photo of the larger, but incomplete crock!!

~DG
 

Re: Reconstructed 120-160 year old crock-UPDATE!-Worth MORE than a Sword Belt Plate!

On my Banner, Buck, every one of your threads would be up there! :icon_sunny: :thumbsup:

Kirk
 

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Colonial KirkPA said:
On my Banner, Buck, every one of your threads would be up there! :icon_sunny: :thumbsup:

Kirk

Thank you for your kind words, Mr. Coppa Finder Sir. 8)
 

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Colonial Zoyboy said:
In my mind, your crockery pot is still up on that banner, Buck! :thumbsup: :icon_sunny:

Kyle

Mine too!

Keep digging (and restoring!)
 

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