Rejection letter #1 and todays finds

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Rejection letter #1 and today's finds

Hello, went to the local park and got a couple nice surprises....

A wheat
A compact (0-2 coin-wise)
Cool key 8)
1.26 in clad

And a rejection letter for a school park (never ask unless you need to!)

Dear Justin:

I am writing this letter in response to your request to use a metal
detector on blankety blank's property.

I must deny your request as it poses many problems; the least of which
is that we have many students who use the playground area - as well as
other areas for play, or running, or practices and/or physical education
activities.

The District spends a lot of time and money trying to make sure that
the ground is taken care of. Therefore, we do not want anyone "digging"
up the grass and/or dirt which could result in an injury and/or cause us
more work.

Good luck in your treasure hunting


A nice way of saying we don't want holes in our lawn...which is basically a swamp...the snow plow can do more damage in a winter than i can ever do there...everyone was fine, even the teachers until this one "just wanted to make sure". She was nice and just wanted permission...you can go there and not find any holes....oh well :'(

HH
-GC
 

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i go to school.......everyweekend
the playground is so clean
 

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i can't see finding much at a place called blankety blank anyway..... ;D ;D
 

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I didn't even know 2005 was locked.
 

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GC....Commendable effort anyway.Ya know...I once told a local park ranger, as I looked around me that the only diff. between me and the cute little squirrils was that I filled my holes back in.He too looked around...agreed ...and said "have a nice day".
Unfortunately, most wont take the time to simply look. The call is made based on a misperception of MDers being shovel wielding grave diggers, leaving holes a person could break a leg in.Even more unfortunate and the reason that we run into these difficulties, is that sometimes.... theyre right!
..............Joe
 

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I Think thats bogus. Do you live in the district? And therefore pay taxes to said district? We need a revolution. Thats taxation without representation, or something like that. Oh well, I'll bet you knew a better place anyway. Bongo
 

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if you don't ask you won't know, then you could get into trouble :-\
 

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rockhoundoo7 said:
if you don't ask you won't know, then you could get into trouble :-\

it is public property and therefore is open to the public aka me....

HH
-GC
 

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i wouldn't ask permission anymore...unless you want to hunt someone's private yard. i've hunted a million schools in a million cities and the only thing that ever happens is someone will come up and ask me if i've found anything, then they go about their business. they don't even think twice about it. BUT, when you force them to think about it by asking permission, they will most probably turn the corner on the issue and think, "well, now that i think about it, they probably SHOULDN"T be digging in the grass on our property". next thing you know, they're on the lookout for anyone MDing.

it's easier to get forgiveness than to get permission anyway.

just my 2 cents. ;)
 

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oknorom said:
i wouldn't ask permission anymore...unless you want to hunt someone's private yard. i've hunted a million schools in a million cities and the only thing that ever happens is someone will come up and ask me if i've found anything, then they go about their business. they don't even think twice about it. BUT, when you force them to think about it by asking permission, they will most probably turn the corner on the issue and think, "well, now that i think about it, they probably SHOULDN"T be digging in the grass on our property". next thing you know, they're on the lookout for anyone MDing.

it's easier to get forgiveness than to get permission anyway.

just my 2 cents. ;)

Wouldn't it be more fun detecting if you didn't have to look over your shoulder and worry about someone giving you hell for not getting permission? If the administration doesn't want people digging on school grounds that's it, move on to the next one. Not asking, or at least researching the laws or school policies can only end in a bad way. That's just my 2 cents.

John
 

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I believe schools are public property. unless its a private school.
 

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hi john,

i'm just saying most people don't care about someone metal detecting and probably wouldn't think about it, positively or negatively. but asking permission is forcing the authorities (school officials, caretakers, employees, etc.) to make a rule about it, when they probably couldn't have cared less if you hadn't brought it to their attention.

i hunt schools without asking pernission all the time, and it's very rare that i have someone react negatively towards me. i don't look over my shoulder because i don't feel i have to. and i have a great time hunting. you start asking permission and you'll soon run out of places to hunt, believe me.
 

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I've only received 1 rejection letter too. The other rejections came via e-mail and phone message. ;D I've even been complimented on my permission letter just before they say no.
 

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oknorom said:
hi john,

i'm just saying most people don't care about someone metal detecting and probably wouldn't think about it, positively or negatively. but asking permission is forcing the authorities (school officials, caretakers, employees, etc.) to make a rule about it, when they probably couldn't have cared less if you hadn't brought it to their attention.

i hunt schools without asking pernission all the time, and it's very rare that i have someone react negatively towards me. i don't look over my shoulder because i don't feel i have to. and i have a great time hunting. you start asking permission and you'll soon run out of places to hunt, believe me.

You guys are probably right. I can remember the principal at my highschool. He would have kicked my butt off of school grounds if I started digging holes in the grass. By the way, just because it's public property doesn't necessarily mean you have the green light to hunt. I'm just a worry wart, but I want the people that take care of the property to know who I am, and what I'm doing.

John
 

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I too hunt schools some with permission and some not.
I typically approach the grounds keeper and get his permission, after all he represents the school and he is the one that will be checking up on my efforts. I always tell him that if there are any specific problems to contact me and I will repair the problem myself. I found out that there are a few admins that are educated so far from reality that they don't have a clue. I contacted one Admin and he seriously thought I would be bringing heavy equiptment in and damaging his prized football field.

However, I did contact the Chief Admin over a large school district and he gave me blanket permission on all the schools that he controls (5 separate properties). On the smaller rural schools I wait till summer and hit them. If it is a private school always get permission.

Some basics on schools; stay away while school is in session, your presence creates a perceived safety concern and can be disruptive to the students. Always do a follow--up contact with the person you obtained permission from and show'em all the dangerous items you removed (Admins love that part) mixed in with a few z-Lincolns.
 

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hi john,

i usually hit schools on the weekend or after most people are gone during the week. normally i only hit school that possibly hold old coins. as far as the permission letter goes, i would imagine NO school would EVER give you permission after recieving a letter asking permission...i mean, what principal would respond, "sure, john doe, come on over whenever you'd like and dig holes in our grass...". no way. BUT...say you don't ask permission. you go to the school and start detecting and that SAME principal sees you detecting. you're using a small digger, a towel for your dirt, and you are filling your holes neatly...that SAME principal most likely would not have a problem. now, it would be a different story if you had a SHOVEL out there...

i like this kind of post. many new THers feel that they need to ask permission EVERYWHERE they go. parks, schools, demos, beaches. i say just go out and detect, use common sense, be neat, courteous, and informative for anyone who is curious as to what you're finding. and newbies, if you REALLY want to start making some KILLER finds, find the gumption to go knocking on doors of private residences in OLD parts of town. get their permission to hunt their yard and you wont be sorry. shallow oldies--there's nothing like it.

HH everyone!
 

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oknorom said:
hi john,

i usually hit schools on the weekend or after most people are gone during the week. normally i only hit school that possibly hold old coins. as far as the permission letter goes, i would imagine NO school would EVER give you permission after recieving a letter asking permission...i mean, what principal would respond, "sure, john doe, come on over whenever you'd like and dig holes in our grass...". no way. BUT...say you don't ask permission. you go to the school and start detecting and that SAME principal sees you detecting. you're using a small digger, a towel for your dirt, and you are filling your holes neatly...that SAME principal most likely would not have a problem. now, it would be a different story if you had a SHOVEL out there...


Great post! I am totally new to metal detecting, and it seems you aren't. Everything you said makes sense. I'm probably just a chicken. Thanks for the advice.

John
i like this kind of post. many new THers feel that they need to ask permission EVERYWHERE they go. parks, schools, demos, beaches. i say just go out and detect, use common sense, be neat, courteous, and informative for anyone who is curious as to what you're finding. and newbies, if you REALLY want to start making some KILLER finds, find the gumption to go knocking on doors of private residences in OLD parts of town. get their permission to hunt their yard and you wont be sorry. shallow oldies--there's nothing like it.

HH everyone!
 

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cheffer said:
I didn't even know 2005 was locked.
yeah, it's totally locked! Just try getting in there now!


P.S. If you do get in see if you can find my mind, I seem to have lost it there(then)
 

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awesome! good luck out there, john!
 

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