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‘Roll-call’ from a 1910’s military dumpsite along the Mexican Border.

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‘Roll-call’ from a 1910’s military dumpsite along the Mexican Border.

A friend and I came upon an area last week used to discard trash that is most likely dated from 1905 to 1918 +/-. The general area was once occupied by the US Army on a military post just a few hundred feet from the Rio Grande River. To date we have dug buttons, coins, bottles, and many other personal items from the solders and their families. I myself have found 32 aluminum (or pot medal) dog tags and my friends have found two more. As the dog tags came up I realized that they were either lost in clothing or just thrown away.

Once I got them home and I was able to clean them up, I then stared to be able to read each name on the tags some clearly and others in part. Some of the tags were duplicates and others were singles. All have wear marks around the holes that would have been used with a chain or twine around the necks of the solders. As I cleaned each one, it was like taking ‘Roll call’ 100 years after.

From what I have read over 12,000 solders occupied the area at the turn of the century to protect the border lands from Mexican bandit raids and the threat the United States had from Mexico as the Mexican government was German sympathizers during World War I.

Any one interested in the research to finding the next of kin to any of the solders listed is welcome to do so. Ones we can verify the information I will be able to return the dog tags to them. I know that this has happened in the past (as it is our code). It may also be information that the US Army may want for their archives, so any information on who to contact with the US Army would be appreciated.

The lists of names on the tags are as follows:

Note: Numbers in parenthesis (332256) is on the reverse side of the tag, all other information is on one side. ??? is on areas that I can not read due to corrosion.
-Photos attached-

THOMAS ??????????
4 CAV.
U.S.A.
331652

THOMAS TEDFORD
4” CAV.
U.S.A.
REG.SUP.SGT.
331652

KIRK FRIT Z.
HRS
TR. E. 4.CAV.
U.S.A.
(331872)

??RK FRIT Z.
HRS
TR. E. 4.CAV.
U.S.A.
(331872)

JOSEPH. TOSCANO.
TRP. D. 4. CAV.
U.S.A.
(332302)

JOSEPH. TOSCANO.
PVT
TRP. D 4. CAV.
U.S.A.
(332302)

BOWMAN. MILOW. D
PVT
4
[CROSS SABORS]
?
U.S.A.

BOWMAN. MILOW
PVT
4
[CROSS SABORS]
? [LOOKS Z OVER Z]
U.S.A.
(332362)

GILLMAN.R. CARLE.
PVT.
4TH . CAV.
TROOP. G.
U.S.A.
(332333)

GILLMAN. R. CARLE
BGL
TROOP ‘G’
4TH. CAV.
U.S.A.
(GILMAN)
(332333)

DYCHE ALBERT.
CPL.
TR. L. CAV
U.S.A.
(40)

DYCHE ALBERT
CPL.
TR.E.4.CAV
U.S.A.

WILIIAM O REVIS
332003
PVT.
TROOP H 4TH. CAV
U.S.A.

WILLIAM O REVIS
332003
PVT
TP H 4 CAV
USA

JOHN C. KALLIN
PVT.
TR. E. 4. CAV.
U.S.A.
(331860)

CHARLES F. VARRIER
PVT
TR H 4 CAV
USA
33201?

SAMUAL J WAKENS
338957
CORP
SERGT
TROOP ??
U.S.A.

???IK E KLINZAK
TROOP G
?TH. CAV.
U.S.A.
(332359)

AL?ONSO J. CROSS
TRO?? CAV.

HOUCK GEORGE W
PVT.
TR. E. 4. CAV.
U.S.A.
(331865)

HANS L MADSEN
PVT
TR H 4 CAV
USA
(3?????)

GAR?ND F LYDA?
TR H 4 CAV
USA
(331985)

ITHEL M KING
PVT
TR H CAV
USA
(33I980)

GREEN GEORGE B.
CPL.
TP. E. 4 CAV.
U.S.A.
(331855)

OBERG. EPH???M. W.
U.S.A.
(332.433.)

CARL W. ROHRBECK
PVT
TR H 4 CAV
USA
(332005)

RICHARD A. CATES
PRIVATE
TROOP L 4TH
CAVALRY
U.S.A.
(332264)

ALEXISKR IVCHUCK
PVT.
TROOP G
4TH. CAV.
U.S.A.

EDWARD KINNEY
PVT.
TROOP G
4 TH. CAV.
U.S.A.
(332356)

.PVT. JOHN. THARP
TROOP M
4TH OAV

JOHN LONE
CPL
TP H 4 CAV
USA
(331893)

SILVERIO MAR?IN
TR B 4 CAV
USA
(331990)

RAMOND FRED B.
U.S.A.
(332437

I thought it would also be befitting to post this on Memorial Day week and to pay a small tribute to these solders and to remember their service to our county.

S.P.Walker

Keep on digging
 

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That is some cool finds. It is almost like looking into the past. Unlike a coin here you have names, and even their outfit they were with on the tags. thanks for sharing. I agree this is a way to honor these men even this many years later.

Saber
 
Cool Finds
if you put tracing paper over someof the ones you can not read and gently rub with a pencil you may get more of the letters
On some of the older tags there might not be any one left alive to claim them
and of the living some would rather let old memories lie still
ask your local army recruiting station they should have all of the numbers
just make sure the land you found them on is ok to detect in
The armed services are a little sketchy some times live ordinance and such
Good Hunting
Joe
 
:D THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!!!! I RESPECT AND ADMIRE SOMEONE THAT WILL TAKE THE TIME TO PERSERVE OUR HISTORY AND ATTEMPT TO KEEP IT INTACT. I AM SURE THERE ARE RELATIVES OUT THERE THAT WOULD SHED A TEAR OVER THE SIGHT OF THEIR RELATIVES DOG TAG... I WOULD IMAGINE ALL OF THEM HAVE LONG SINCE GONE TO THEIR REWARD. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT CARE!! GOOD FINDS!!! YOU KNOW THESE ARE ALL OLD HORSE CALVARY? :o :o :o
 
WOW....thats a real nice lot of history.....do you think electrolisis or something else would clean them up

-GC
 
Hope you don't mind but, I entered each of the soldiers names and info into the family name forums, along with this website address ,so hopefully some family members who are doing genealogy will see them and start contacting you.
There were two family sites I couldn't find names for
JOHN C. KALLIN CHARLES F. VARRIER
So I will keep looking .
 
Thank you for posting the names. You are a true credit to the hobby. Good luck out there and be carefull.
HH Burdie
 
Wow very cool. I wonder if they will contact you? I hope you let us know what happens.
Great job
 
Re: ‘Roll-call’ from a 1910’s military site along the Mexican Border (UP DATE).

I went back yesterday and cam up with two more dog tags to add to the list:

FINCKE. ALBERT L.
U.S.A.
(331845)

ROBERT GORDON
PVT.
I [HOLE] 8
INF.
(900876)

SW
 
I will add those names to the sites....Are you finding anything else out there...would love to see pics of the area.....Hope someone contacts you on the tags.
 
Very cool! Congrats and thanks for the post and your good work!
There are many people who will be grateful. :D
~Ceejay (Vet: USAF, USAR)
 
Update No. 2

Thank you gypsyheart for the help in spreading the information. I have tried the electrolysis and have cleaned the corroded ones up as mush as I can.

The material that they are made of is a soft aluminum and they have been exposed to some heat. Some of the tags seem to be corroded and have a white powder that is very hard and it is stuck to their surface and also imbedded inside areas that has lost its outside face. This is only a few tags from the group so I consider all of them as a hole to be in very good shape for 90 to 100 years old.

I will try to post some picks of the buttons and such we have found at the site as soon as I have the time.

I went back yesterday with my son and we came up with four more dog tags to add to the list:

J???? J. DE????N
USA
(331967)

CLARENCE. J. HADLEY
USA.
(645733)

ARTHUR. J. OC???? [MELTED]
PVT
D??1???
(101780)

FINCKLE. ALBERT L.
U.S.A.
(331845)

Keep on digging

SPWalker
 
Fantastic finds SW! I think it is extra special to find relics with someone's name on it, and you found a bunch of special relics!

Awesome!

Nana ;)
 
Hi SPW

This is a really great post. I have been here reading a few times now and finally got a reply in. Congrats on the finds and for what you and Gypsy are doing. My hats off to you and to the former soldiers who once wore these tags.

Smiles!
BDoo
 
Up date No. 3

I went back yesterday and cam up with six more dog tags to add to the list:

Thank you to all for reading

SPWalker

CLIFORD F WAGNER
MTC
(R421259)

HENRY H HENDRICKSON
PVT
CO P. 3D ENG
USA
(331175)

MARTIN J. ?LOOD
LIEUT
5TH F, L?. ART
U.S.A.

ANDERSON HERBERT
U.S.A.
(331834)

HERBERTO. BLEVINS
USA
41256{5 or ?]

OBERG ?PHR??
(332.4 [3 or 8, 3 or 8] )
 
HI! I dont know if u are even checking this post it has been a while, but I saw another post on the geneology site about this link... my great great grandfather was John tharp... I know my dad would love to have his dog tag !~ 2 cool!~
 
LKATharp said:
HI! I dont know if u are even checking this post it has been a while, but I saw another post on the geneology site about this link... my great great grandfather was John tharp... I know my dad would love to have his dog tag !~ 2 cool!~

Hello and welcome to TreasureNet. I did a check of the original poster's Profile and saw that he hasn't visited TreasureNet since July 2006. He has an email address on his Profile, but I have no idea if it is still valid. Here it is: spwalker@acnet.net Try sending an email to that address and mention TreasureNet, maybe you'll get lucky!

I wish you good luck in getting the dog tag. And, many heartfelt thanks to your great great grandfather for his service to our country.
 

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