Round Copper Maybe Button 1700s

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Re: Round Copper Maybe Curtain Tie ?

Looks like a button to me :-\
 

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Re: Round Copper Maybe Curtain Tie ?

1700s button? Thanks
 

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More like a rossette/stud type thing. (someone might have a better name) Is very old though. Probably take a UK'er to date it, but 1600s wouldn't surprise me.
 

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Re: Round Copper Maybe Curtain Tie ?

shaun7 said:
Looks like a button to me :-\


Not a King George I dump halfpenny? ;D
 

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Iron Patch said:
More like a rossette/stud type thing. (someone might have a better name) Is very old though. Probably take a UK'er to date it, but 1600s wouldn't surprise me.

Its a Stud, but for furniture, missing its iron nail. Late Georgian.
 

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CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
More like a rossette/stud type thing. (someone might have a better name) Is very old though. Probably take a UK'er to date it, but 1600s wouldn't surprise me.

Its a Stud, but for furniture, missing its iron nail. Late Georgian.


Are you sure about that. In 35 combined years detecting here we have never dug one of those.

Thinking a little more, I believe a friend from a couple hours away found a military one that dated to the 1770s that was similar. But still weird how we've never seen one of these.

PS... Looking again and seeing the rim, it is a little different to the ones i had in mind (or was comparing to), which were like a shell, they usually come out with a dar green patina. I think you probably know the ones, if so, you think they are also Georgian?
 

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Iron Patch said:
CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
More like a rossette/stud type thing. (someone might have a better name) Is very old though. Probably take a UK'er to date it, but 1600s wouldn't surprise me.

Its a Stud, but for furniture, missing its iron nail. Late Georgian.


Are you sure about that. In 35 combined years detecting here we have never dug one of those.

Thinking a little more, I believe a friend from a couple hours away found a military one that dated to the 1770s that was similar. But still weird how we've never seen one of these.

PS... Looking again and seeing the rim, it is a little different to the ones i had in mind (or was comparing to), which were like a shell, they usually come out with a dar green patina. I think you probably know the ones, if so, you think they are also Georgian?

Didn't they have a coper-alloy bar instead of the iron pin?
 

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CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
More like a rossette/stud type thing. (someone might have a better name) Is very old though. Probably take a UK'er to date it, but 1600s wouldn't surprise me.

Its a Stud, but for furniture, missing its iron nail. Late Georgian.


Are you sure about that. In 35 combined years detecting here we have never dug one of those.

Thinking a little more, I believe a friend from a couple hours away found a military one that dated to the 1770s that was similar. But still weird how we've never seen one of these.

PS... Looking again and seeing the rim, it is a little different to the ones i had in mind (or was comparing to), which were like a shell, they usually come out with a dar green patina. I think you probably know the ones, if so, you think they are also Georgian?

Didn't they have a coper-alloy bar instead of the iron pin?


Not the ones I'm thinking of, just what looks like the remains of an iron stud. What I'm talking about isn't the Georgia era rosettes that are a similar type shape, the ones I mean are definitely early. In my mind I've always grouped these stud type things together, but since there are differences they very well could be from different time periods. I can probably find a pic at the Colchester site if you are not completely sure the ones I mean.
 

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Iron Patch said:
CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
More like a rossette/stud type thing. (someone might have a better name) Is very old though. Probably take a UK'er to date it, but 1600s wouldn't surprise me.

Its a Stud, but for furniture, missing its iron nail. Late Georgian.


Are you sure about that. In 35 combined years detecting here we have never dug one of those.

Thinking a little more, I believe a friend from a couple hours away found a military one that dated to the 1770s that was similar. But still weird how we've never seen one of these.

PS... Looking again and seeing the rim, it is a little different to the ones i had in mind (or was comparing to), which were like a shell, they usually come out with a dar green patina. I think you probably know the ones, if so, you think they are also Georgian?

Didn't they have a coper-alloy bar instead of the iron pin?


Not the ones I'm thinking of, just what looks like the remains of an iron stud. What I'm talking about isn't the Georgia era rosettes that are a similar type shape, the ones I mean are definitely early. In my mind I've always grouped these stud type things together, but since there are differences they very well could be from different time periods. I can probably find a pic at the Colchester site if you are not completely sure the ones I mean.

Not too bothered. I know I have had many of these (not this exact design but the same construction & shape), don't pay much attention to them & chuck them in the sales box. I have always thought them to be attached to wood rather than leather. How early do you think they are? 1770s is still late Georgian (in my speak).
 

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CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
More like a rossette/stud type thing. (someone might have a better name) Is very old though. Probably take a UK'er to date it, but 1600s wouldn't surprise me.

Its a Stud, but for furniture, missing its iron nail. Late Georgian.


Are you sure about that. In 35 combined years detecting here we have never dug one of those.

Thinking a little more, I believe a friend from a couple hours away found a military one that dated to the 1770s that was similar. But still weird how we've never seen one of these.

PS... Looking again and seeing the rim, it is a little different to the ones i had in mind (or was comparing to), which were like a shell, they usually come out with a dar green patina. I think you probably know the ones, if so, you think they are also Georgian?

Didn't they have a coper-alloy bar instead of the iron pin?


Not the ones I'm thinking of, just what looks like the remains of an iron stud. What I'm talking about isn't the Georgia era rosettes that are a similar type shape, the ones I mean are definitely early. In my mind I've always grouped these stud type things together, but since there are differences they very well could be from different time periods. I can probably find a pic at the Colchester site if you are not completely sure the ones I mean.

Not too bothered. I know I have had many of these (not this exact design but the same construction & shape), don't pay much attention to them & chuck them in the sales box. I have always thought them to be attached to wood rather than leather. How early do you think they are? 1770s is still late Georgian (in my speak).


I've come across different ones from the UK. Since we have never found any I've always assumed they dated with the buttons that are maybe 100 years out of our reach. I'll check my Tice book later to see if he happens to have them listed.

I've never really paid too much attention to them either. (not much reason to never finding any)
 

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Iron Patch said:
CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
CRUSADER said:
Iron Patch said:
More like a rossette/stud type thing. (someone might have a better name) Is very old though. Probably take a UK'er to date it, but 1600s wouldn't surprise me.

Its a Stud, but for furniture, missing its iron nail. Late Georgian.


Are you sure about that. In 35 combined years detecting here we have never dug one of those.

Thinking a little more, I believe a friend from a couple hours away found a military one that dated to the 1770s that was similar. But still weird how we've never seen one of these.

PS... Looking again and seeing the rim, it is a little different to the ones i had in mind (or was comparing to), which were like a shell, they usually come out with a dar green patina. I think you probably know the ones, if so, you think they are also Georgian?

Didn't they have a coper-alloy bar instead of the iron pin?


Not the ones I'm thinking of, just what looks like the remains of an iron stud. What I'm talking about isn't the Georgia era rosettes that are a similar type shape, the ones I mean are definitely early. In my mind I've always grouped these stud type things together, but since there are differences they very well could be from different time periods. I can probably find a pic at the Colchester site if you are not completely sure the ones I mean.

Not too bothered. I know I have had many of these (not this exact design but the same construction & shape), don't pay much attention to them & chuck them in the sales box. I have always thought them to be attached to wood rather than leather. How early do you think they are? 1770s is still late Georgian (in my speak).


I've come across different ones from the UK. Since we have never found any I've always assumed they dated with the buttons that are maybe 100 years out of our reach. I'll check my Tice book later to see if he happens to have them listed.

I've never really paid too much attention to them either. (not much reason to never finding any)
I think you guys know more about the earlier stuff than I do but I always thought they were rosettes from horse harnesses. I've dug quite a few All were dug in sites that went back to the 1700's and some in sites that were strictly colonial All the ones I dug had the remains of an iron stud.
 

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