Ryedale User Question: Sorting Procedures

[$ilver$urfer]

To all my fellow Ryedale users:

I am most pleased with my new Ryedale unit but I have noticed that some older Wheats, some copper Canadian and older Canadian (found a near BU 1929 King George the other day) have been thrown into the zinc bin. The copper bin is perfect -- no zincs whatsoever. Should I re-sort the zinc bin by putting a zinc penny in the comparator and then re-running them all? I would really like to not have to do this to save wear and tear on my machine but I cannot think of a better way. Thoughts and suggestions are appreciated!!!

Funny story: My first roll of pennies I put into my Ryedale were all sent into the zinc bin. I said great, this thing isn't working or I screwed something up. Nope - I hand checked each of the 50 pennies and they were all zincs!!! I have never had a roll of pennies with zero copper in it before and then the first roll I dump into my Ryedale is nothing but zinc!!! I could not believe it myself but it is true!!!

HH,

$ilver$urfer

 

[silvercop]

this happens with the ryedale for some reason. it will also throw any indian pennies in the zinc pile too. what i do is i set 2 small bowls under the shoots and i watch the pennies fall. i can almost pick out any wheat penny that falls in the zinc pile. while the machine is running all i watch is the zinc pile. i sort through the copper pile for wheats when i roll them up to store them.
i found this flaw a little disappointing at first but i have gotten used to it.

 

[Irish Finn]

What is a Ryedale?

 

[enamel7]

What is a Ryedale?

Reading is fundamental!

 

[BullionBaron]

To all my fellow Ryedale users:

I am most pleased with my new Ryedale unit but I have noticed that some older Wheats, some copper Canadian and older Canadian (found a near BU 1929 King George the other day) have been thrown into the zinc bin. The copper bin is perfect -- no zincs whatsoever. Should I re-sort the zinc bin by putting a zinc penny in the comparator and then re-running them all? I would really like to not have to do this to save wear and tear on my machine but I cannot think of a better way. Thoughts and suggestions are appreciated!!!

For me it's not worth the effort or wear on the machine.


HH,

$ilver$urfer

 

[T-Candy]

From what I've collected it wouldn't be to your benefit to run the coins an additional time through the same machine running on its default settings. Apparently the ryedale tests the coins individual resistance and thus some wheats are rejected due to their varying metal content. If you were so inclined it seems that you could adjust your sorter to meet the range of resistance matching that of the wheat cents.


from

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=112981.0

I asked him that same question.

<<If the sorter thinks older wheats are zinc in the first machine, won't that happen again with the second machine?>>

It doesn't think the wheats are zinc. It just thinks they are not copper. The older wheats have enough tin in them that they sometimes read as not copper enough to be an "accept". ANYTHING that is not "copper" goes to the reject pile. It is not the "zinc" pile, but the "rejected" pile. So, if the second time you set it to accept zinc, and only run the original rejects, then you will get the zincs this timee as "accepted" and all others again as rejects. That will put the tin (or copper) wheats into the reject, along with some foreign coins, while the zincs are in the accept side this time.

That make sense to you?

I really like what he is doing. I think he needs to advertise it more, and then he could be sellling 15 - 20 machines per WEEK. That would make it quite the business. :-)

JRF

 

[jrf30]

To all my fellow Ryedale users:

I am most pleased with my new Ryedale unit but I have noticed that some older Wheats, some copper Canadian and older Canadian (found a near BU 1929 King George the other day) have been thrown into the zinc bin. The copper bin is perfect -- no zincs whatsoever. Should I re-sort the zinc bin by putting a zinc penny in the comparator and then re-running them all? I would really like to not have to do this to save wear and tear on my machine but I cannot think of a better way. Thoughts and suggestions are appreciated!!!

Funny story: My first roll of pennies I put into my Ryedale were all sent into the zinc bin. I said great, this thing isn't working or I screwed something up. Nope - I hand checked each of the 50 pennies and they were all zincs!!! I have never had a roll of pennies with zero copper in it before and then the first roll I dump into my Ryedale is nothing but zinc!!! I could not believe it myself but it is true!!!

HH,

$ilver$urfer

take a look at my long post on the Ryedale from a week or so ago. It answers that exact question. :-) (short answer: not worth running them again for the very few wheats you would get. You would get more by running a new batch in that same time period. But, watch the reject side while USING the ryedale, and you'll catch almost all those rejected older wheats anyway.)

I figure that if I run them again and find (approximately) two extra missed wheats, in that same period if I ran a new batch I would instead find two older wheats PLUS 5 newer wheats PLUS 17% copper. For the same usage on the machine, for the same time as running the same batch a second time, and for the same effort. NOt worth running a second time.

Read the older post. It goes into depth on how to not lose those coins and get more by doing them one time.

And remember there is no "zinc" side. Just a copper side and a "reject" side. That's why older wheats, zincs, canadians, and even 1943 steelies would all be on the same side. Not zinc, just not the same copper composition. :-)

 

[$ilver$urfer]

To all my fellow Ryedale users:

I am most pleased with my new Ryedale unit but I have noticed that some older Wheats, some copper Canadian and older Canadian (found a near BU 1929 King George the other day) have been thrown into the zinc bin. The copper bin is perfect -- no zincs whatsoever. Should I re-sort the zinc bin by putting a zinc penny in the comparator and then re-running them all? I would really like to not have to do this to save wear and tear on my machine but I cannot think of a better way. Thoughts and suggestions are appreciated!!!

Funny story: My first roll of pennies I put into my Ryedale were all sent into the zinc bin. I said great, this thing isn't working or I screwed something up. Nope - I hand checked each of the 50 pennies and they were all zincs!!! I have never had a roll of pennies with zero copper in it before and then the first roll I dump into my Ryedale is nothing but zinc!!! I could not believe it myself but it is true!!!

HH,

$ilver$urfer

take a look at my long post on the Ryedale from a week or so ago. It answers that exact question. :-) (short answer: not worth running them again for the very few wheats you would get. You would get more by running a new batch in that same time period. But, watch the reject side while USING the ryedale, and you'll catch almost all those rejected older wheats anyway.)

I figure that if I run them again and find (approximately) two extra missed wheats, in that same period if I ran a new batch I would instead find two older wheats PLUS 5 newer wheats PLUS 17% copper. For the same usage on the machine, for the same time as running the same batch a second time, and for the same effort. NOt worth running a second time.

Read the older post. It goes into depth on how to not lose those coins and get more by doing them one time.

And remember there is no "zinc" side. Just a copper side and a "reject" side. That's why older wheats, zincs, canadians, and even 1943 steelies would all be on the same side. Not zinc, just not the same copper composition. :-)

Thanks for your feedback jrf30, I had to go back and find your old post (I really need a charter membership). You did explain that very nicely! I'll just keep my eye on the reject side for now on and will not re-run my rejects!

HH,

$ilver$urfer

 

[$ilver$urfer]

this happens with the ryedale for some reason. it will also throw any indian pennies in the zinc pile too. what i do is i set 2 small bowls under the shoots and i watch the pennies fall. i can almost pick out any wheat penny that falls in the zinc pile. while the machine is running all i watch is the zinc pile. i sort through the copper pile for wheats when i roll them up to store them.
i found this flaw a little disappointing at first but i have gotten used to it.

Thank you! I will keep my eye only on reject pile!!!

HH,

$ilver$urfer

 

[$ilver$urfer]

From what I've collected it wouldn't be to your benefit to run the coins an additional time through the same machine running on its default settings. Apparently the ryedale tests the coins individual resistance and thus some wheats are rejected due to their varying metal content. If you were so inclined it seems that you could adjust your sorter to meet the range of resistance matching that of the wheat cents.


from

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=112981.0

I asked him that same question.

<<If the sorter thinks older wheats are zinc in the first machine, won't that happen again with the second machine?>>

It doesn't think the wheats are zinc. It just thinks they are not copper. The older wheats have enough tin in them that they sometimes read as not copper enough to be an "accept". ANYTHING that is not "copper" goes to the reject pile. It is not the "zinc" pile, but the "rejected" pile. So, if the second time you set it to accept zinc, and only run the original rejects, then you will get the zincs this timee as "accepted" and all others again as rejects. That will put the tin (or copper) wheats into the reject, along with some foreign coins, while the zincs are in the accept side this time.

That make sense to you?

I really like what he is doing. I think he needs to advertise it more, and then he could be sellling 15 - 20 machines per WEEK. That would make it quite the business. :-)

JRF

Nice find on the old post!!!

HH,

$ilver$urfer