Thanks, its pretty rough times. I just got into options and made upto 19,000 and should have sold them 2 days out of expiration, but in 1 day I woke up and they were only worth 8,000. By the next day down to 3,000 and I couldn't get it out of my mind that they worth 19,000 and may return to that point, so I held on and lost it all. The good news is that prior to this I got a job as a proprietary trader, but I can't start until I pass the FINRA series 56 exam I have scheduled in a few weeks. At that point I'll get a trading acount with 40:1 leverage, so I need to sell my silver to fund that account. Once I start to do well I'm going to start collecting again.