Should I be finding gold coins?

JohnnieWalker

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I know that there were many gold coins in the past but I never seem to find any. I find silver but no gold. Did people use gold and silver certificates (Paper money) back in the early 1900's or did they in fact use those $5 Indian heads?

I asked my mom who is 92 and she said that she doesn't remember ever using gold coins.

Can anyone help with some insight on this? Has anyone found one or more gold coins while detecting?
 

JohnnieWalker said:
I know that there were many gold coins in the past but I never seem to find any. I find silver but no gold. Did people use gold and silver certificates (Paper money) back in the early 1900's or did they in fact use those $5 Indian heads?

I asked my mom who is 92 and she said that she doesn't remember ever using gold coins.

Can anyone help with some insight on this? Has anyone found one or more gold coins while detecting?
Apparently gold coins didn't circulate much in NC. Coinage of any kind was rare in the U.S. until at least 1830: that's why we find so much coinage from other countries in circulation then: Prussian, Netherlands, Spanish, Mexican, etc.

After the '49 gold rush, coinage suddenly became relatively common. On the West Coast, gold coins were most frequently seen in circulation, but small denomination coins below $ denominations were rare here until at least the 1880's. Even then "saddleblanket" paper money was more common, but usually discounted by store owners and others by at least 40%. Everyone "knew" a $ was a pinch of flour gold between the thumb and forefinger. Bigger fingers were a definate advantage!

I wouldn't worry too much about not finding gold coins in N.C. After Roosevelt decreed the great melt-down of gold coins in 1933, a lot of coins vanished from circulation. Unknown to many people was Roosevelt still allowed you to keep at least 4 coins of the same mint mark and year. Many people didn't know that, and so buried their gold coins to keep them out of the hands of the feds. That's why it's so interesting to research the 1934-35 era, when people often still owned gold coins, but didn't want others to know about it.
 

Gold coins are pretty uncommon to find in general, but in some places it seems closer to impossible, like here. I know they did circulate, but when I look at how many diggers I know within a couple hundred miles, how many years we have combined, and all the targets we've dug to get next to nothing for gold coins... it sure ain't easy. The strange thing is there has been many many better finds dug than a common gold coin, but that's just how detecting works sometimes. Gold is great if you find it, but certainly never count on it!
 

Johnnie Walker, finding a gold coin is sort of the "holy grail" of our hobby. It's like a "hole in one" to a golfer, etc.... It happens, but it's very rare. In some parts of the United States, the odds go up, as they seemed to circulate more in certain geographic locales (as tuberale alludes to).

They did circulate as legal tender, but gave way to paper money, and paper bank-check writing. So unlike pennies, dimes, quarters, etc... gold coin amounts ($1, $5, $20, etc...) had "competition", and could be carried via other means. So gold coins tended to be carried, and "brought out" for larger purchases. Unlike pennies, dimes, nickels, etc... which you might have a few of in your pocket, gold coins tended to be used when getting ready for a bigger purchase. For example: down payment on a house, buying a horse, etc..... This is why, sometimes when you read property deeds from the 1800s, you'll see humorous notations like: "$300 downpayment paid for in gold coins" I mean, think of it: $5 was pay for an entire week for a laborer! So comparing that to today, it would be like if you lost $500, or whatever. Might you carry $500 in cash? Sure. But odds are, you are not, and would only carry smaller change and bills, and use paper check writing for larger things (or in our day and age, credit cards). So yes it's possible that they had a gold coin and lost it back then, but very rare, as they just didn't circulate in the same way, and for the same reasons, as other coins did.

Not sure why they circulated more (or were lost more anyhow) out west. I've got 12 gold coins so far. And I know of guys here who have 1, 2 or 3, 6, etc.... Contrast that to the east coast, where there's HARDCORE hunters there, who've found scores of large cents, busts, colonial coppers, reales, etc... yet NEVER found a gold coin. Wierd. (I guess we west coast guys are just much more skilled hunters than you guys, eh? haha)
 

Johnnie,

I belong to a club with about 30 active members, some with 25+ years of active detecting in the club. About 40 members are deceased or stopped attending. Including all those only 6 gold coins were found. 3 were found in England. The club hunt regularly MD, VA & DE. Including beach areas, old home sites, and schools.

Ed D.
 

Sure, gold was used to buy larger items such as cattle or horses, but in general silver was used much more often. Most people didn't save enough to have a gold coin. This was like having a $1000 dollar bill lying around. When purchases were made often silver was the coinage used up until the 1930, when gold was forbidden to be owned by the populace. Some did bury their gold instead of turning it in. Most gold coins that people owned were turned into the government. Not carrying gold coins leads to very few being lost. You are more likely to find a cache rather than a single coin. Also, you are more likely to find a silver dollar than a half dollar. Good Luck. rockhound
 

You can be a great detectorist & never find a gold con. If a $5 gold coin in early 1900s had the buying power of $150 now, how many would've carried that much on them & how much time would they spend looking for it if they knew they dropped it?

Also, gold coins would've last been lost in early 1930s. In early 1900s, coins still in curculation included pre-1880 Indian pennies, shield nickels, maybe two & three cent pieces, Liberty Seateds & maybe some well worn Bust coins. If you can find those, you may be in an area where gold coins were lost.

Many lived on farms late 1800s & if not going to town for major purchase, probably would not have gold on them.

I detected a small town park with my dad, that went back to 1890s. We found some 1800s coins. But real experts went over the park for 9 days, digging only the weak beeps. They found an 1881 $10 gold piece 11" deep. Yes, 11" deep with a 1970s detector. So sometimes we are too late with the deepseekers.

A good place to try for gold coins might be where sidewalks or streets are torn out in front of 1800s business buidings. Best wishes, George (MN)
 

I've been detecting for over 30 years on sites that have the potential for gold coins. In all those years I have found thousands of silver coins but I did manage to walk over 3 gold coins. AN 1895s US $20.00 gold piece, and 1826 British 1/2 sovereign, and an undated US $1.00 that had been turned into a love token. Two of these coins were found on sites that produced hundreds of silver coins and large cents and the $1.00 was found at a homesite where it was the only coin found. So you just never know.
 

[(I guess we west coast guys are just much more skilled hunters than you guys, eh? haha)
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gold coins are a rare find. However it would be good to find where the us denominations register on the machine(s) you use(if they're visual id or tone id machines).
 

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I'd like to see a showdown of West coast gold coins vs East coast valuable finds. I like gold, but cash is king! East coast all the way! :thumbsup: (Notice I'm in my gang colors in my avatar)
 

Iron patch, I noticed your street gang colors too. You probably flash gang signals to each other when you detect as well? :o

You east coast guys want us to believe the sand boxes over there are brimming with large cents, colonial coppers, and bust coins. But we here on the west coast are "on to you" guys. It's all made up. Whenever we read of such coins "supposedly" being found, we know it's just a charade. We're on to you guys!

Oh, and seeeoooo sorry that you guys can't seem to find any early S mints out there. :-*
 

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Finding Gold coins is down to pure luck :P and nothing else :icon_thumleft:

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Finding gold coins is down to reducing your discrimination and accepting more iron on the one hand and thinking out of the box on the other.

Gold coin sales go through the roof everytime there's some crisis. Could be 9/11, First/Second World Wars, Cuba crises, Korea/Vietnam etc etc or just the potential collapse of the world wide banking system.

People buy gold and many store it themselves to avoid the 1%+ charges and the fact if the enemy is landing on the coast there would be little chance of recovering the loot from the institution thats storing it. Many then die or suffer dementia. I've recently recovered a coin collection that was buried and lost in a large garden. The first the family knew things were going wrong was when a set of stainless steel pans disappeared over a matter of weeks. This was followed by the coin collection going missing.
I've had small hoards out of walls. In water tanks, under a concrete bird bath and gold hidden along the top edge of a door into a understairs cupboard. Being so small you would not walk in, just reach from the outside where nothing could be seen. Other finds include rings/chains and a gold watch, currency used as carpet underlay and even a stash of old black and white porno magazines "Skirt Weekly" hidden under the floorboards in a bedroom.

As for luck you make your own. When gold coins were in most use in Britain there were various areas opened up for the recreation of the better off. You hunt those places and improve the odds.
 

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