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;D ;D You Said it all!!! God Bless America!!! A Million -----Raghead Terrorists aren't worth the life of ONE AMERICAN!!!!!


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BMA!!!!!!!!!
 

buscadero said:
A Million Raghead Terrorists aren't worth the life of ONE AMERICAN!!!!!


Bigot. There was a time when people like you would have used the words "Nigger," "Spic," or "Kike" instead of "Raghead."

For your information, there are over 300,000,000 Arabian people in the world, and about the same number of non-Arab middle-easterners. Yet there are maybe only a few tens of thousands who are terrorists. (A VERY small percentage.) How would you feel if (assuming you are white) people said you were a monster because you are from the same ethnic group as Adolph Hitler?
 

Heheheh, yet another one Gypsy posted awhile back- ;)
 

CT: If you mean, Am I Bigoted against Terrorists ? Of course I am, & what's more, any group that slaughters 3-4000 Americans deserves any name I wish to call them!
CT.
I am origionally from the Detroit area, & have been called Honky, Whitey, White Devil, & other names by People of the Colored Persuasion.

Did it bother me? Heck No! I realize that's their only way to express themselves cause of the mess they have made of the City & their pathetic lives.
It's the same in all the Islamic Terrorist ruled Countries!
I'm sure you will protest little when they tell you, Convert to Islam or Die! And you can carry a Protest Sign when the Potus is a Mullah!
Orbe like that Pillar of Morality, Rodney King, " Why can't we all get along?". The Islamic- Fascists will like that one!
By the way, I'm German & Irish. I've heard of Krauts & "no Irish Need Apply"! During WW2, My Grandmother, who, by the way, had 4 sons in the US Military, was "visited" by the FBI. They searched her house looking for Short Wave Radios. Was she bitter, Did She whine ? No, of course not! She knew it was necessary at the time. Both her & my Grandfather were born in Germany. I Forgot, SMILE! This is Comedy Central!
Joe
 

Captain Trips said:
buscadero said:
A Million Raghead Terrorists aren't worth the life of ONE AMERICAN!!!!!


Bigot. There was a time when people like you would have used the words "Nigger," "Spic," or "Kike" instead of "Raghead."

For your information, there are over 300,000,000 Arabian people in the world, and about the same number of non-Arab middle-easterners. Yet there are maybe only a few tens of thousands who are terrorists. (A VERY small percentage.) How would you feel if (assuming you are white) people said you were a monster because you are from the same ethnic group as Adolph Hitler?

Hey HippyTrippy,

You obviously don't understand how America works! When we are at war with somebody, there is a certain amount of implied racism that is allowed! See, by doing that, it let's us see the enemy as less than human, and takes away our built objections to killing other humans. Every country in the world has done (or is still doing it) since time in memorial.

There are lots of examples, but here are a few:
1. Jews: Made to be subhumans by the Nazis. Not so hard to kill a subhuman, is it?
2. Non-Japanese: Japanese trained their troops to believe that any non-Japs were subhuman. Made it easy to torture and murder Chinese, US POWs, etc.
3. Japanese: USA wartime posters made all Japs look like midget, bucktoothed, thick glasses wearing, idiots.
4. Terrorists: So many of the talking heads on TV call terrorists "Cowards" and "weaklings". How cowardly is it to knowingly explode yourself? Would you do it? I wouldn't, and I'm no coward! Misguided? Yes, but no coward!
5. Afghanis: The Russians told their troops that the Afghanis were primitive people who would be overrun in a few weeks, and would run from the superior firepower of the Soviet Union! WRONG!

That's how stereotypes are made. They are for the general populace mostly. If they agree with the posters and propaganda, they are not likely to protest the fighting. Problem is, when the kids who do the fighting, get to the front, they so underestimate the enemy, they are shocked when the enemy is really very cunning, and fearless in battle! We, who are so self centered, just can't understand how somebody could blow themselves up for the cause! We might sacrifice ourselves to save somebody else, but strapping a bomb to our chests and running into a crowd? NO WAY!

Best,

Mike
 

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There is an extremely thin line between humoristic racism, implied racism, open racism and outright hatred.

Hearing peoples stories are one thing, however, experienceing them first-hand is another.

There is a lot of truth about walking in the other man's shoes.
 

gollum said:
Hey HippyTrippy,

You obviously don't understand how America works! When we are at war with somebody, there is a certain amount of implied racism that is allowed! See, by doing that, it let's us see the enemy as less than human, and takes away our built objections to killing other humans. Every country in the world has done (or is still doing it) since time in memorial.

There are lots of examples, but here are a few:
1. Jews: Made to be subhumans by the Nazis. Not so hard to kill a subhuman, is it?
2. Non-Japanese: Japanese trained their troops to believe that any non-Japs were subhuman. Made it easy to torture and murder Chinese, US POWs, etc.
3. Japanese: USA wartime posters made all Japs look like midget, bucktoothed, thick glasses wearing, idiots.
4. Terrorists: So many of the talking heads on TV call terrorists "Cowards" and "weaklings". How cowardly is it to knowingly explode yourself? Would you do it? I wouldn't, and I'm no coward! Misguided? Yes, but no coward!
5. Afghanis: The Russians told their troops that the Afghanis were primitive people who would be overrun in a few weeks, and would run from the superior firepower of the Soviet Union! WRONG!

That's how stereotypes are made. They are for the general populace mostly. If they agree with the posters and propaganda, they are not likely to protest the fighting. Problem is, when the kids who do the fighting, get to the front, they so underestimate the enemy, they are shocked when the enemy is really very cunning, and fearless in battle! We, who are so self centered, just can't understand how somebody could blow themselves up for the cause! We might sacrifice ourselves to save somebody else, but strapping a bomb to our chests and running into a crowd? NO WAY!

Best,

Mike

Mike --

Actually, I quite agree with you. This is how stereotypes are made. Unfortunately, they are not unmade as easily. I've had to live with "Christ-Killer" all my life, even though I'm not 2000 years old!

Yes, the "sub-humanizing" of the enemy is all to common during warfare. If it weren't, perhaps it wouldn't be so easy to go to war? Wouldn't that be nice?

BTW, I actually take the "HippyTrippy" thing as a compliment. Although I bathe regularly, own my own upper-middle-class home, and have a very good paying job as an IT professional, I do consider myself a hippie. It's a frame of mind, really. Hippies believe that peace, love, and personal freedom are more important in the world than anything else. That's all it takes. To show it, I do wear my hair long, but I maintain a respectable visage all the same. And I am proud to be an American citizen, where I am free to have these views and live the way I choose. (I just wish that my government would make some different choices, but what can I do besides vote in every election -- which I do religiously!)
 

Actually, where I was going with the "HippyTrippy" was an old George Carlin Character "The Hippy Dippy Weatherman" (Today's weather...There will be some) ;D ;D ;D

Come on, if we can't brand someone as something less than a man/woman, how can we kill them? Same thing happened to blacks a few hundred years ago. How can you live with yourself keeping another man as your slave? I KNOW! We'll say that blacks are only 2/3rd of a man. Guess what? IT WORKED! Why is cocaine illegal? Not because it's harmful or addictive! It's illegal because "it drives the blacks into a state of frenzy, and makes them want to have sex with white women!" That was the real legal argument, and it won!

Even with all it's faults, this is still the best nation in the world.

Best,

Mike
 

gollum said:
Even with all it's faults, this is still the best nation in the world.

Best,

Mike

On that point, we most definitely agree! I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. (Let's hope that doesn't change.) But what's wrong with wanting to make it even better?


Oh, and here's the forcast for tonight: Dark.
Continued dark throughout the night, with scattered light towards morning.

(I was a big fan of George Carlin in his earlier days!)
 

Captain Trips said:
gollum said:
Even with all it's faults, this is still the best nation in the world.

Best,

Mike

On that point, we most definitely agree! I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. (Let's hope that doesn't change.) But what's wrong with wanting to make it even better?


Oh, and here's the forcast for tonight: Dark.
Continued dark throughout the night, with scattered light towards morning.

(I was a big fan of George Carlin in his earlier days!)

"A one-armed man was arrested in the lake in city park today. The other boaters say he was disturbing them by continuously rowing in a circle." ;D ;D ;D ;D

There is nothing at all wrong with wanting to make your world a better place to live. I have said it before, and I'll say it again:

"This country works best when it's right down the middle. Nature (and politics) has a built system of checks and balances. For every left-wing liberal, we need to have a right-wing warmonger! For every religious fanatic, we need an atheist. For every Ted Kennedy we need a Newt Gingritch. For every Don Rumsfeld we need a (GOD I HATE TO SAY THIS) Jimmy Carter. As long as one side doesn't totally get their way, things usually work out just fine!"

best,

Mike
 

tchimes said:
This holds true to terrorists, All terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists.


Sorry, but that is not quite true. Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, The Army of God, Freedomites, God's Army, the KKK, the Nagaland Rebels, the National Liberation Front of Tripura, the White Aryan Resistance, all Christians and all terrorists (individuals or groups.) Not to mention numerous other organizations and individuals who are not Muslim, yet are still terrorists.
 

Captain Trips said:
tchimes said:
This holds true to terrorists, All terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists.


Sorry, but that is not quite true. Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, The Army of God, Freedomites, God's Army, the KKK, the Nagaland Rebels, the National Liberation Front of Tripura, the White Aryan Resistance, all Christians and all terrorists (individuals or groups.) Not to mention numerous other organizations and individuals who are not Muslim, yet are still terrorists.

Trippy,

You are right to a point! A couple of your listings are not terrorists (except in the broadest interpretation of the term). The Naga Rebels (there are a few different factions), and the NLFT are true terrorist orgs.

Chimey,

You are right to a point also.

I have posted this elsewhere, but it needs reposting here (my mom sent this to me a few months ago):

Is racial profiling wrong?



Please answer the multiple choice quiz:



1. In 1968 Robert Kennedy was shot and killed by


Jay Leno
Superman
Harry Potter
A Muslim male extremist between the age of 17 and 40


2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, Israeli athletes were kidnapped and massacred by


Olga Corbutt
Sitting Bull
Arnold Schwartzenegger
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40


3. In 1979, the US Embassy in Iran was taken over by


Lost Norwegians
Elvis and the Memphis Mafia
80 year old women on a tour bus
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40


4. During the 1980’s, a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by


John Dillinger
The King of Sweden
The Boy Scouts
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40


5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by


A pizza delivery boy
Pee Wee Herman
Geraldo Rivera
Muslim Male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


6. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American was murdered and thrown overboard by


The Smurfs
Davy Jones
The Little Mermaid
Muslim Male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


7. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by


Captain Kidd
Charles Lindberg
Mother Theresa
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


8. In 1988, Pan Am flight 103 was blown up by


Scooby Doo
The Tooth Fairy
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


9. In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by


Richard Simmons
Grandma Moses
Michael Jordan
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


10.In 1998, the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by


Mr Rogers
Hillary Clinton
The WWF
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


11.On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked resulting in the deaths of approximately 3000 Americans by


Bugs Bunny
The Florida Supreme Court
Mr Bean
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


12.In 2002, the US went to war in Afghanistan against


Enron
The Lutheran Church
The NFL
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


13.In 2002, reporter Richard Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded by


Bonnie and Clyde
Captain Kangaroo
Billy Graham
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40




Nope, I really just don’t see a strong enough pattern here to justify offending a few Middle-Eastern men between the ages of 17 and 40. Like Forrest Gump says “Stupid is as stupid does!”



Best,

Mike
 

;) GOLLUM: Tell your Mom, "WELL DONE"! But do you think the Bleeding Hearts will see a pattern here, or write it down as random acts by a few Arabs, Palestinians,Phillistines,Klingons, or whatever they are calling themselves now. Oh, incidentally,they are all Muslims!


Joe
 

Captain Trips said:
tchimes said:
This holds true to terrorists, All terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists.


Sorry, but that is not quite true. Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, The Army of God, Freedomites, God's Army, the KKK, the Nagaland Rebels, the National Liberation Front of Tripura, the White Aryan Resistance, all Christians and all terrorists (individuals or groups.) Not to mention numerous other organizations and individuals who are not Muslim, yet are still terrorists.

And something else to add for you Trips,

All the "GROUPS" you mentioned are doing all their fighting in their homeland. They don't blame the United States for their problems. The NAGAs and the NLFT all blame British Colonialism and India for their woes (they fight for independence from India). They have NEVER killed an American (that I can find, please correct me if I'm wrong).

Freedomites? How can you mention them here? To my knowledge, they have never killed ANYBODY! Not just Americans. The committed arson and bombing, but that was mostly to THEIR OWN PROPERTY (and they did it while in the nude)! The Freedomites are/were strange and non-materialistic, but not terrorists.

Now, when you are talking KKK, Aryan Brotherhood, and WAR (White Aryan Resistance), you can just lump all them together (because they all live together in Idaho). Say White Supremacists. Don't forget to include Nazi Skinheads, Nihilists, and Christian Identity! I say lump them together, because most of them belong to more than one of these groups. Not strictly terrorists, but have committed terrorist acts. The difference between them and our Muslim friends is, that OUR Government keeps them under constant surveillance. We put every one we can in jail. Our Muslim neighbors (with a few exceptions) let their crazies run loose, and preach their hate.

God's Army? We're back to the Far East again. This "Army" is led by two TWELVE (12) YEAR OLD BOYS! And again, I can find NO reference to them EVER killing an American. They are fighting for their freedom from Myanmar. That is who they shoot at.

Me, I'm concerned with who is trying to kill me and my loved ones (Muslim Male Extremists between the ages of 17 and 40). That's not all of them, but it's a damm good start. I don't give a rat's a$$ if I happen to offend someone who happens to be in that category who is not a terrorist. THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! If they can't understand what people constitute the OVERWHELMING majority of those who want to do me harm, then TT (tough titty)!

Best,

Mike
 

tchimes said:
I Beg to differ

Those you list are nut cases, but not terrorists. None of which have made statements time and again calling for the destruction of America and Israel. None of those you list are engaged in a Holy Jihad. However they are some sick puppies.

As I recall, the statement made was that "all terrorists are Muslim." You are making the assumption that "terrorism" is an act made against America and/or Israel. This is not the case. Terrorism is the act of using terror as a weapon. Period. Agreed, most Americans are only aware of terrorist acts made against the United States in the name of Allah, but that is a rather limited viewpoint. In its true meaning, "terrorism" is a much broader act.

Mike -- That "questionaire" is in itself biased. It only asks questions for which "the Muslim individual or group" is the correct answer, but there are many acts of terrorism that were not mentioned in that listing.

Terrorism is an action taken against many nations by many groups for many reasons. To assume that the term "terrorism" only applies to "acts performed by Muslims against Americans" is a rather parochial viewpoint, and that is the point I was trying to make. Terrorism is a world-wide phenomenon which needs to be addressed on a world-wide basis. To only care about what affects America is what is called "blind nationalism" and is in itself a problem internal to this country we need to address. Until we admit that the United States of America is actually part of a greater World Community, we will never grow up as a society. And, as a truly patriotic American, I want us to grow into that world community.
 

Captain Trips said:
tchimes said:
I Beg to differ

Those you list are nut cases, but not terrorists. None of which have made statements time and again calling for the destruction of America and Israel. None of those you list are engaged in a Holy Jihad. However they are some sick puppies.

As I recall, the statement made was that "all terrorists are Muslim." You are making the assumption that "terrorism" is an act made against America and/or Israel. This is not the case. Terrorism is the act of using terror as a weapon. Period. Agreed, most Americans are only aware of terrorist acts made against the United States in the name of Allah, but that is a rather limited viewpoint. In its true meaning, "terrorism" is a much broader act.

Mike -- That "questionaire" is in itself biased. It only asks questions for which "the Muslim individual or group" is the correct answer, but there are many acts of terrorism that were not mentioned in that listing.

Terrorism is an action taken against many nations by many groups for many reasons. To assume that the term "terrorism" only applies to "acts performed by Muslims against Americans" is a rather parochial viewpoint, and that is the point I was trying to make. Terrorism is a world-wide phenomenon which needs to be addressed on a world-wide basis. To only care about what affects America is what is called "blind nationalism" and is in itself a problem internal to this country we need to address. Until we admit that the United States of America is actually part of a greater World Community, we will never grow up as a society. And, as a truly patriotic American, I want us to grow into that world community.
Remember the "Shock and Awe" programme?
Gord
 

Captain Trips said:
As I recall, the statement made was that "all terrorists are Muslim." You are making the assumption that "terrorism" is an act made against America and/or Israel. This is not the case. Terrorism is the act of using terror as a weapon. Period. Agreed, most Americans are only aware of terrorist acts made against the United States in the name of Allah, but that is a rather limited viewpoint. In its true meaning, "terrorism" is a much broader act.

Mike -- That "questionaire" is in itself biased. It only asks questions for which "the Muslim individual or group" is the correct answer, but there are many acts of terrorism that were not mentioned in that listing.

Terrorism is an action taken against many nations by many groups for many reasons. To assume that the term "terrorism" only applies to "acts performed by Muslims against Americans" is a rather parochial viewpoint, and that is the point I was trying to make. Terrorism is a world-wide phenomenon which needs to be addressed on a world-wide basis. To only care about what affects America is what is called "blind nationalism" and is in itself a problem internal to this country we need to address. Until we admit that the United States of America is actually part of a greater World Community, we will never grow up as a society. And, as a truly patriotic American, I want us to grow into that world community.

THAT QUESTIONNAIRE shows the problems that face us IN THE USA right now. Nagaland Rebels don't want to kill us. Chechnyans don't want to kill us. MUSLIMS DO! We need to fight who it will do us the most good fighting!

I never said that "ALL" terrorists are Muslim! But the OVERWHELMING number of major terrorist acts perpetrated in the last fifty years have been by "Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40". NOT ONE of the eastern terrorist groups you mentioned have EVER killed an American!

One thing you liberals can't seem to get through your head is that we have a group of people bent on the destruction of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

Terrorism is an action taken against many nations by many groups for many reasons. To assume that the term "terrorism" only applies to "acts performed by Muslims against Americans" is a rather parochial viewpoint, and that is the point I was trying to make. Terrorism is a world-wide phenomenon which needs to be addressed on a world-wide basis. To only care about what affects America is what is called "blind nationalism" and is in itself a problem internal to this country we need to address. Until we admit that the United States of America is actually part of a greater World Community, we will never grow up as a society. And, as a truly patriotic American, I want us to grow into that world community.

Yes, terrorism is everywhere in the world, and we can't eradicate it everywhere in the world. We can help to cure the conditions that lead to people who feel their only recourse is to commit acts of terrorism. Many times it is a group wanting independence of their country from another country (Chechnya, Nagaland, Cashmir, etc). Many times one religion rules a country, and oppresses another group with different religious views (Serbia, Sudan, Malaysia, Indonesia). Many times it is one tribe that rules a country, and oppresses people from a different tribe (Iraq, Turkey, Rwanda, Tanzania, Ghana, Mali). Sometimes it's about one race hating on another race (KKK, Aryan Brotherhood, Christian Identity). And sometimes it's just about religious differences (Israel, God's Army, Eric Rudolph). What you don't understand is, many of these conflicts have been going on for a thousand years (Serbia, Iraq, Cashmir, etc). There have been so many killings over the years that NO treaty will help. We just need to help the non-combatants.

What we can do something about, are the people who DIRECTLY threaten the UNITED STATES! They cannot be bargained with. They will not honor any treaty. Their entire reason for existence is to destroy anybody who prays to a different God than they do. If Chechnya won it's independence from Russia, the terrorist acts would end. If Nagaland won it's independence from India, the terrorist acts would end. If the United States did as Al Queda asked, and removed all of our troops from Muslim Lands, would the attacks cease? NO! They would just follow us here! As it is, we have their resources spread out in Afghanistan and Iraq. They have committed most of their resources there. Don't get me wrong. They are still planning something grand here, but if we left them to their devices, they could concentrate ALL their resources here in the USA.

Best,

Mike
 

Some good examples of why America is going down the drain- always somebody screaming "Hey you can't say that!! That's not right, that's offensive.." etc. etc. I say kill 'em all, they got a free ticket to heaven for dying fighting us, let's help them get to heaven. ;D How's that for humor?
 

Captain Trips said:
Until we admit that the United States of America is actually part of a greater World Community, we will never grow up as a society. And, as a truly patriotic American, I want us to grow into that world community.

What a pile of crap. You are no more a patriotic American than is UBL. Globalism means the demise of nations. It means the UN or some other ineffective, over-priced, anti-Western group of elitist power-hungry socialists runs the world. If that's what you want, MOVE. I want to retain American autonomy and return to the Constitution as it was intended. You liberal globalist know-it-alls make me ralph. Take your globalist agenda and try preaching it to the jihadists, see how far you get with them. They won't even let you open your mouth before your head is separated from your torso. But hey, you think the world is full of rational people and I think it's filled with those who hate America...including some of our "allies" apparently, hey gord?
 

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