Skeptics, courtesy, & thread title(s)

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Here is another

Place target on ground
Walk around target with rods
Make another set of rods with same material,but tis time One inch shorter or one inch longer at the end of the rods.
Walk around the target.
Make another set of rods with same material, but this time either one inch shorter(or longer) at the end of the rods
Now on all the walk arounds concentrate as normal.
what were the results? ???

mike
 

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Twelve years ago I happened to notice the subject of using hydrogen as fuel. Back then it was mostly theory
formulas stuff way over my head to even grasp, much less understand.
People from all walks of life ,nationality, countries began to do the same, all asking the same question(Is it possible to burn hydrogen?)
Some began to build web sites, others forums such as yahoo. All with the same question(how to burn hydrogen?)
Something begun to happen, Even one such as I could understand the language they were speaking
(How to build a hydrogen unit?)
And now today, years later I can now build a portable unit for my truck, to offset the amount of fuel being used.
I can now go on line and buy a kit If I don't want to build that will burn water as fuel,
all because way back then others I have never met asked the questions

why
Is it possable
How to
Some tried to travel alone seeking fame and fortune. They didn't want to share as others had.
Most are dead, some beaten into silence, others threaten.
Others Begin to speak up, and shared for all the world to see
That is the power of the internet
We are that power
To share what little bit each one of us have gained of dowsing
Like the Hydrogen group no one has all the answers
Like the hydrogen group lets ask
why
is it possable
how to
From that will come a science so sound no one can disprove it.
Not even the skeptics

Mike
 

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most dowsing classes involve the laying of thought forms inside buildings for practice. If a skilled teacher can create a water vein that reacts to dowsers as a water vein for all intents and purposes why would there not be reactions to other thought forms? Some laid accidentally and some laid deliberately. Joe Smith on photon has been dowsing oil for decades. You might learn something from his posts there. siegfried schlagrule
 

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Siegfrid,
Finally, after all these years, someone realizes the most important and fundamental aspect of dowsing. Thought!!! “It’s the thought that counts”.
A thought is energy that causes neurons in the brain to fire in certain patterns. That firing produces tiny currents along definite paths in the brain cortex that can be picked up with sensitive instruments through electrodes on the surface of the skull. This thought that starts out very tiny will or can develop into a full blown thought producing at least a 70 millivolt potential somewhere in the cortex. It fires the first neuron, which in turn causes others to fire in a certain sequence. In this universe, no energy is lost. If we can pick up the current produced by the thought outside of the head, it means that the energy of that thought was sent in the form of electromagnetic waves, and at the velocity of light into the environment. Since energy can’t be destroyed, that thought remains in the universe, and might or might not impinge on someone for whom it was created.
Since dowsing depends somewhat on the detection of electromagnetic waves. It seems likely that there could be a lot of energy in the form of thoughts most anywhere.
Dowsing is a way of being conscious of sensory inputs which are not directly connected to the instinctive brain functions. For example man's sensitivity to magnetism. The organ we assume to be responsible for this sensitivity is the pineal gland . We know that the pineal is contained within the skull, but the pineal lies outside the brain, and has no direct contact with the brain nor does it have direct nerve connections. So the pineal must communicate with the lower brain through subconscious urges, and not rational thought. In the case of dowsing, clearly the subconscious brain (not mind) is, in some way, able to alter muscle tension in the shoulders and arms, by way of the ideomotor effect, causing the crossing of angle rods, and the swinging or rotation of the pendulum.
Following is a few examples of dowsing that I hope will explain what I mean. I have practiced and researched dowsing and consciousness for many years.
In the mid-1980’s, I had a client in the Cayman Islands that wanted me to search for a horde of gold that supposedly had been buried by the French near a fort. There were three of us on this particular search. We started on the beach late at night (another dowsing myth exposed) looking to detect a gold signal. One was picked up, and we proceeded to follow the trace down the beach. We came to an area where the signals stopped, and I began to box the trace where a yard met the beach. Unbeknown to me, the yard belonged to one of my companions. Bedrock was not deep at this location, and we quickly had a fairly large hole down to the limestone bedrock. Nothing was found. The owner of the property then said, “ My father always thought that the gold was buried right here!!”
At another time, I was searching for a famous lost gold mine in Arizona. I had map dowsed the area, and gotten a location not too far from the Gila River. I had not studied any particulars about this mine before I dowsed for the location. My partner field dowsed the area when we got there, and indicated the same spot that I had map dowsed. We searched for three days, and found nothing. Later, I found a newspaper account (1891) that had been written about a man who was a friend of the original finder. “ Charles O. Brown of this city has stated that he thinks the mine is located at……………..”
My theory is that once a thought is created about an object by a person now living or someone long dead, they have in effect placed that object at a certain location. This, I believe is the reason for so many empty holes.
I once was called to a farm at Gisela, Az. where a family wanted me to find a large amount of gold coins that had been buried by the patriarch who had died in a drowning accident. Eventually, I found a trace in their garden that was near the kitchen windows. The family members dug up the whole garden area without finding the coins. The son of the patriarch told me, “ Mother always thought Dad buried those coins in the garden where he could watch over them”.
Everyone can make his own conclusions from these examples, but the evidence is very strong that thoughts play a large part in dowsing.
 

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I have been an avid researcher of dowsing and a practictioner for about thirty years. Although those thirty years haven't been consumed by researching and dowsing i have come to my own conclusion that this is how dowsing works. You start out by putting yourself into a very relaxed state. Then when you have your dowsing tool of preference ready to go you ask your subconscious mind a question. It may be something like where is the ring located, but after asking the question, a tiny part of your subconscious mind is sent out to locate that object. If and when it does, it comes back to you and through very almost unperceptible neuromuscular movements,you get a swinging of the pendulum or a movement of the rods(those two being common instruments used).How deep you can get into an altered state of consciousness (i believe) will determine how accurate your answers will be. These thought waves that you send out are wispy to say the least and some day there will be instruments that will finally be able to pick up on this and when that happens, dowsing will be much more understood....
 

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