Some kind of Colonial Copper Coin? HELP...what is this???

[Johnny Cache Hunter]

Found this today, cleaned it up as best I could. It was just a black disc when I started.
Any idea what it is? Any help in its ID is appreciated.


JCH

 

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[Zephyr]

Kind of looks like the word "Liberty" is on it.

 

[Montana Jim]

177? British Half Penny (1770 - 1775)

GEORGIVS III REX


I think.

 

[True_Metal]

177? British Half Penny (1770 - 1775)

GEORGIVS III REX


I think.

Heres one, but it looks different to me. Notice the difference in space from the edge of the coin to where the shoulder cuts off.

 

[True_Metal]

Here is Georgie the II, but these coins were minted with the bust facing left which doesnt explain the right facing bust on your coin.

Strange as this looks like the coin except for the bust facing discrepancy?

Whats the obverse look like?

 

[ivan salis]

the english mint changed right facing to left facing then right facing again as each king george the first thru george the third changed -- thus the king george the first is right facing -- king george the second is left facing and king george the third right facing again --the found coin is a king george the first or III(that means first or third) right facing coin --- the other coins shown above area right facing king george the III --see the III on it by the head ? that means third---and a left facing king george the II see the II by the head righ top side? (the second) --- I thnk it is a king george the first coin thus no "mark" for the first I only the II or III had marks to show he was the second or third king george --- hope this helps -- Ivan

due to a shortage of coinage sent over by england many fake coins were made by american people hard up for money -- many fakes coppers were made back then and they were very common and widely used --- the were accepted by most folks abourt the same as a real coin is due to it metal content.

 

[l.cutler]

Right country wrong ruler, it is a William III from the later 1690's or so. Going from memory but google it and you should find the exact years.

 

[Evolution]

I'm curious now. I'd really like to see a picture of the whole coin. It looks kind of like a King George III. Good pictures of both sides would help. Great find whatever it is.

 

[Johnny Cache Hunter]

The reverse really lacks detail and trying to capture the little that remains in a picture is next to impossible, at least for my camera.

 

[ivan salis]

think king george the first --right facing bust amd thus no mark to the right of head being he was the "first" --- king george the second was left facing and had "II" by his head top right for "the second"(see photo in postings above) -- king george the III while right facing, had "III" by his head for "the third" (see photo in postings above)-- the english mint switched the way the bust faced from right to left and back to right again ---from king george the first (right facing) to king george the second (left facing) then back (right facing) for king george the third -- knowing this fact --it must be a king george the first or third --- and seeing no III on it means --its not the third (bust outline is wrong for the third too)---- so my bet would be king george "the first" 1717 - 1724 half penny often called a "dump"--- hope this helps you out

note sometimes colonies made fake copper coins --esp the king george the II coins due to the fact england didn't ship enough coins to the colonies in an attempt to control the colonies cash flow and trade matters -- its one of the reasons spanish silver money was so widely use in america --and was considered legal tender us money until the 1830's or so

 

[CRUSADER]

Right country wrong ruler, it is a William III from the later 1690's or so. Going from memory but google it and you should find the exact years.

You got it, its a William III 1694ish halfpenny

 

[Don in SJ]

There are three basic types of William III halfpennies and I believe yours is Type 1, which would be an earlier year one, William III Halfpennies were 1695-1701, with Type 1 being dated 1695-1698 I believe. However, it is slightly possible that yours is a William and Mary Halfpenny from 1694, but I do not think the ribbon lines up properly but the area of the bust at the top of the coin looks wide enough to have been two heads, but the wear makes that difficult to say.

The most common feature of the vast majority of the William III Halfpennies found is that the reverse is usually worn smooth or just about and the obverse is worn on the right side more than the left side. Almost always the last remaining feature that can be used in IDing a worn William III is the unique ribbon, no other copper halfpennies have that short blunt design.

Don

 

[Angelo]

Found on ebay.

Tony

 

[ivan salis]

humm my goof ---I forgot about "right" facing william the third --1695 to 1701 -- latin wording--- GVLIELMVS TERTIVS --on it --- "william third" ---humm looks like most of the the GVLIELMVS-- is readible but as don says the right side is worn down thus the TERTIVS is gone and the back side is worn smooth.

 

[Johnny Cache Hunter]

Thank you all very very much....I would not have been able to ID it with you folks!!!

That is now my oldest find to date!! Yahooo