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:help: HOLY CRAP :sad10:

Empire Passport annual park entry pass from $59 to $65
Use of four-wheel-drive on beach for fishing from $49 a year to $65
Captree-Robert Moses overnight parking from $200 a year to $400
Metal detecting from $20 a year to $40
Night sportfishing from $20 per year to $30
Picnic pavilion rental for weekends and holidays from $225 to $250


Thousands of Long Islanders who enjoy beach fishing, scuba diving, stargazing and other activities at state parks will be paying more this year to ease the Empire State's budget crunch.

While general admission fees are unchanged, the permit fees for 16 activities went up Jan. 1 along with increases in the Empire Passport, which provides access to all state parks, and camping fees.

Three annual user fees have doubled: Captree-Robert Moses overnight parking to $400; metal detecting to $40; and stargazing access to $30.

Ronald Foley, regional director of the Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation, said his staff compiled the list to contribute to a statewide goal of generating $6.5 million in new park revenue.



"Many of them had not been adjusted in years," Foley said. "So there was a desire to get them up to the value that was appropriate and somewhat standardize them. It clearly will help us avoid operating budget cuts on Long Island."

So far, he added, some people have complained when they came to renew permits, but they paid the higher fee.

Robin Dropkin, executive director of Parks & Trails New York, a statewide advocacy group, said the increases reflect "the reality nowadays. We'd rather see specific user fee increases than general admission increases because we feel people can at least get to the park and enjoy the natural setting."

"We're not going to propose a park entry fee increase," Foley said. "Everyone wants to keep the parks as accessible as we can, especially in tough times."

But raising golf fees is still under consideration. And Foley said there could be additional increases in other user fees.

Thousands of people purchase the permits. For example, about 11,000 people last year purchased four-wheel-drive beach driving permits for fishing, 2,700 people purchased sport fishing permits good at six parks, and 500 bought permits to fish at Caumsett.

"I don't think it's appropriate to raise user fees unless they're going to provide increased services," said Bill Pfeiffer, president of the Long Island Divers Association. "Financially, it's tough for everybody so we're going to be curtailing our travel and using our local resources. Making it more expensive doesn't make it very attractive."

But William Muller of Smithtown, a member of the state parks Fishing Advisory Board who just paid $32 more for three permits than he did a year ago, said, "I never like higher fees but we also have to be realistic." And at least, he added, the money generated stays in the park system.

The agency also said at the end of last year that some parks will open later and close earlier in the season, and some will see midweek service reductions or closures.

User fee increases

Empire Passport annual park entry pass from $59 to $65

Use of four-wheel-drive on beach for fishing from $49 a year to $65

Captree-Robert Moses overnight parking from $200 a year to $400

Metal detecting from $20 a year to $40

Night sportfishing from $20 per year to $30

Picnic pavilion rental for weekends and holidays from $225 to $250

http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/longisland/ny-lipark145998220jan14,0,5329273.story

all have a good un.....................
SHERMANVILLE
 

I'd pay for a Park Permit Only If the whole Park

including Battlefields were open to detecting

And Nothing needs to be turned in no matter how Historical

Who wants to pay & Then be limited to
parking lots & Picnic areas where only clad exists,
and if you happen to find something Cool
you need to give it to an Archie.

If you had a Buisness, Would you Pay somone to use your Service ?
 

prospector40 said:
that sounds like typical lib dogma. raise the price of everything and get more money. They keep forgeting that in the end, less people will visit and end up with less money. But, at least next year they can up the price again to make up the difference. And of course, they will till expect it to work for them.

Don't know why someone would think it's a liberal in charge :icon_scratch: I have NEVER paid to go into any park & I NEVER will, there's other places to go that are free!
 

seger98 said:
prospector40 said:
that sounds like typical lib dogma. raise the price of everything and get more money. They keep forgeting that in the end, less people will visit and end up with less money. But, at least next year they can up the price again to make up the difference. And of course, they will till expect it to work for them.

Don't know why someone would think it's a liberal in charge :icon_scratch: I have NEVER paid to go into any park & I NEVER will, there's other places to go that are free!

I Agree with Both Sentences here.

From now on I See the word Liberal or any other "Political" Label in a post it gets Deleted Unless
it's in the politics section.
 

jeff of pa said:
seger98 said:
prospector40 said:
that sounds like typical lib dogma. raise the price of everything and get more money. They keep forgeting that in the end, less people will visit and end up with less money. But, at least next year they can up the price again to make up the difference. And of course, they will till expect it to work for them.

Don't know why someone would think it's a liberal in charge :icon_scratch: I have NEVER paid to go into any park & I NEVER will, there's other places to go that are free!

I Agree with Both Sentences here.

From now on I See the word Liberal or any other "Political" Label in a post it gets Deleted Unless
it's in the politics section.

Thanks great to hear, I for one have gotten real tired of seeing politics in the forms where it doesn't belong! And that's why I highlighted that!
 

Jeff,

think your very fair in your judgements;
the liberal use of your powers as a moderator
is appreciated. Good job. :wink: ;D :tongue3:

have a good un.......
SHERMANVILLE
 

SHERMANVILLE ILLINOIS said:
Jeff,

think your very fair in your judgements;
the liberal use of your powers as a moderator
is appreciated. Good job. :wink: ;D :tongue3:

have a good un.......
SHERMANVILLE

I think I'm very Conservative on what I Delete.

I am just Sick of The Political Blame Games.

Especially where they Don't Belong
 

prospector40 said:
that sounds like typical lib dogma. raise the price of everything and get more money. They keep forgeting that in the end, less people will visit and end up with less money. But, at least next year they can up the price again to make up the difference. And of course, they will till expect it to work for them.

Our park systems have been running broke for years. The price of Everything has gone up--and it hasn't been because of Politics ::) You wanna discuss them, GO TO THE POLITICS THREADS! As far as I knew, this thread was about the PARKS.
 

I never could understand why the tax payer pays for it and then he has to pay to use it? We have a lot of Corps of Engineer lakes close by my home and there is a federal "day use" fee to use the parks. And they are in such a state of disrepair the only thing worth using is the boat ramps. The picnic tables are under water all spring from high water levels for instance. Crazy! Monty
 

jeff of pa said:
From now on I See the word Liberal or any other "Political" Label in a post it gets Deleted Unless
it's in the politics section.
Thank you.
 

Tax tax tax tax tax tax tax. We are so overtaxed in this country it's stupid.
 

Lower property values and foreclosures have caused a huge shortage of income for cities. They have a lot of payroll, pensions and medical insurance to pay for existing and ex-employers. They need to make the money somewhere. I heard traffic tickets will also be going way up. While some of us are unemployed, we still have to pay for the benefits of those with the good city jobs. I personally think they should take a small pay cut. Time to be very careful driving, watch the speed limits and pay your parking because they will be handing out extra tickets.
 

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